There's something incredibly natural about node & mongo together.
Actually it's more like: hey, let's take two tools that ought to be used with utmost caution by people who know what they're doing and why they need them, and present them as the best thing since sliced bread. The huge majority of uses for either would be better served without them.
Nodejs and MongoDB, A Beginner's Approach
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#22To be honest, a good attempt by the author but I wouldn't recommend this to a beginner. Why? I don't recommend the use of the native driver - you end up with needlessly complex code. I don't want to criticize the authors work. He's done a pretty good and thorough job. Hopefully I'll pen down an easier guide later tonight.
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#24This guide really shows what I think is a big problem with a lot of Node guides, they don't go beyond the first 5 minutes. There are a ton of guides on how to set up a webserver in 20 lines, but hardly any on how to (properly) handle a lot of async callbacks and requests etc.
It's hard to cover many aspects of it when we talked about getting our feet wet. I try to include as few terms as possible that potentially confused people to start coding Nodejs-MongoDB. It's probably a big problem when you try to get your feet wet on the first day you learn about swimming just by jumping all over the pool. But then, hopefully, we learn. Thanks for your opinion :)
These 2 tools are reserved for people who exactly know what they want out of their tools, not for someone who just jumped in to "web development" and wanted to use buzzword compliant tools.
Sorry for being such a snippy on Monday morning but I'm hoping people around me would become better at fundamental as opposed to combining tools w/o knowing what they're good for.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to cover many aspects of it when we talked about getting our feet wet. I try to include as few terms as possible that potentially confused people to start coding Nodejs-MongoDB. It's probably a big problem when you try to get your feet wet on the first day you learn about swimming just by jumping all over the pool. But then, hopefully, we learn. Thanks for your opinion :)
I'm not sure that both Node.js and MongoDB appeal beginners. These 2 tools are reserved for people who exactly know what they want out of their tools, not for someone who just jumped in to "web development" and wanted to use buzzword compliant tools. Sorry for being such a snippy on Monday morning but I'm hoping people around me would become better at fundamental as opposed to combining tools w/o knowing what they're…
Re: Nodejs and MongoDB, A Beginner's Approach
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to cover many aspects of it when we talked about getting our feet wet. I try to include as few terms as possible that potentially confused people to start coding Nodejs-MongoDB. It's probably a big problem when you try to get your feet wet on the first day you learn about swimming just by jumping all over the pool. But then, hopefully, we learn. Thanks for your opinion :)
I'm not sure that both Node.js and MongoDB appeal beginners. These 2 tools are reserved for people who exactly know what they want out of their tools, not for someone who just jumped in to "web development" and wanted to use buzzword compliant tools. Sorry for being such a snippy on Monday morning but I'm hoping people around me would become better at fundamental as opposed to combining tools w/o knowing what they're…
Re: Nodejs and MongoDB, A Beginner's Approach
#27This guide really shows what I think is a big problem with a lot of Node guides, they don't go beyond the first 5 minutes. There are a ton of guides on how to set up a webserver in 20 lines, but hardly any on how to (properly) handle a lot of async callbacks and requests etc.
Re: Nodejs and MongoDB, A Beginner's Approach
#28To be honest, a good attempt by the author but I wouldn't recommend this to a beginner. Why? I don't recommend the use of the native driver - you end up with needlessly complex code. I don't want to criticize the authors work. He's done a pretty good and thorough job. Hopefully I'll pen down an easier guide later tonight.
Re: Nodejs and MongoDB, A Beginner's Approach
#29There's something incredibly natural about node & mongo together.
Actually it's more like: hey, let's take two tools that ought to be used with utmost caution by people who know what they're doing and why they need them, and present them as the best thing since sliced bread. The huge majority of uses for either would be better served without them.
The win on engineering productivity alone has made them a good choice for us.
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Is that specific to MongoDB on node, or is that just generally true of node.js code though?
It's generally true for Node when you have a lot of chained I/O. You can somewhat avoid it using events (so you set up event listeners instead of just chaining callbacks endlessly). So far I haven't seen any MongoDB module for Node taking advantage of those (haven't looked a lot yet, though).