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Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Anyone have recommendations for which probiotics are the best ones to buy? I always get confused while looking at all the various options, and this seems like a good place to find someone who’s done a lot of research.

I think the market is flooded with supplements, while you can help your gut bacteria with natural products like kefir (kind of buttermilk), kombucha, kimchi like products. I happen to love all those mentioned.

Same here, loving all things fermented! I am surprised people actually spend on probiotics, while kefir cultures (et alli) are so easy to buy.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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I think the market is flooded with supplements, while you can help your gut bacteria with natural products like kefir (kind of buttermilk), kombucha, kimchi like products. I happen to love all those mentioned.

Those are all very bad recommendations. Buttermilk is loaded with cholesterol and saturated fat, kombucha with sugar, and fermented vegetables like kimchi have shown to increase prostate adenocarcinoma. You want to regulate your gut flora with a variety of whole plant-based foods, not quick fixes like pills and a jar of stinky cabbage.

You are telling me milk kefir is the cause of health issues? I would suggest limiting it to a few spoons a few times per week, then.

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I think the market is flooded with supplements, while you can help your gut bacteria with natural products like kefir (kind of buttermilk), kombucha, kimchi like products. I happen to love all those mentioned.

Those are all very bad recommendations. Buttermilk is loaded with cholesterol and saturated fat, kombucha with sugar, and fermented vegetables like kimchi have shown to increase prostate adenocarcinoma. You want to regulate your gut flora with a variety of whole plant-based foods, not quick fixes like pills and a jar of stinky cabbage.

Neither dietary cholesterol nor saturated fat nor sugar are bad in moderation, and that's completely orthogonal to the point of them providing probiotics.

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Sample size of 1 here, but just hear me out. Probiotics are a cheap and low-risk. If you have any general inflammation type issues that don't seem to have a cause, it might be worthwhile to just try probiotics. My Dr. told me to try them for a digestive issue - and they sort of helped that. But a handful of other things unexpectedly improved. Acid reflux went from really bad to barely noticeable, and my skin really c…

Mind sharing the brand/product?

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The brain fog could have been a consequence of the ensuing biological war you started by introducing a new strain of bacteria to your digestion for which your metabolism had yet to adapt to.

More likely that it’s the case that more bacteria in your stomach isn’t necessarily a better thing. These negative effects have been noted in the literature, too, so I’m not alone: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6006167/

I did not imply probiotics were a panacea. Difficult to imagine such a biological war playing out in every host beneficially. Although the study you mention is concerned with an unusual fermentation process, which may be caused by a different biological mechanism.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Anyone have recommendations for which probiotics are the best ones to buy? I always get confused while looking at all the various options, and this seems like a good place to find someone who’s done a lot of research.

Disclaimer, I’m a software engineer for Ritual.

Antidotally, I recently started taking a probiotic and have had great improvements in digestive health. I also have a chronic digestive disease.

Ritual recently launched a probiotic which includes the two most studied strains, LGG and BB-12. Our formulation and technology is very much driven by science. Maybe it’s right for you.

https://ritual.com/products/synbiotic-plus-for-gut-health

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The problem is that you have to take them often to colonize your gut, so it becomes a bit expensive, and it won't work on everyone, depending on their gut (since scientists know too little about the gut).

My hypothesis is that probiotics also need to be paired with the right diet. Bacteria needs to be fed, and needs to compete with the existing gut flora. If conditions aren't right, then they may never get a foothold.

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My wife as been on SSRIs for years. Anecdotally, a few years ago, she noticed when she forgets to order her probiotics she slides into a malaise after a few days. For both of our benefit, I now make sure we never run out. https://www.amazon.com/Probiotics-Billion-CFU-Prebiotics-Aci...

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Those are all very bad recommendations. Buttermilk is loaded with cholesterol and saturated fat, kombucha with sugar, and fermented vegetables like kimchi have shown to increase prostate adenocarcinoma. You want to regulate your gut flora with a variety of whole plant-based foods, not quick fixes like pills and a jar of stinky cabbage.

You are telling me milk kefir is the cause of health issues? I would suggest limiting it to a few spoons a few times per week, then.

How would you make that practical? How long can you keep a bottle of kefir open before it goes bad?

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Anyone have recommendations for which probiotics are the best ones to buy? I always get confused while looking at all the various options, and this seems like a good place to find someone who’s done a lot of research.

I've had bad gas most of my life. I just kind of assumed it was me and there was nothing I could do about it. I started on 10 Billion CFUs of Lactobacillus Acidophilus [0] a few weeks ago and my gas went away in literally one day. I take 10B CFUs every day or every other day now (every other is probably sufficient), and it's still gone. I'm literally amazed. I started taking it because I saw a video from Dr. Eric Ber…

It’s a shame because in the bygone ages you could have been knighted as Touch Wood or Safety champion - flatulence games for those wondering. ;)
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