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SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk
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Unionizing is not lame. It's about a balance of power between owners and workers.
If you want balance of power improve your skills and get job in a company that values you more. There would never be perfect balance of power. It's not real life.
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#143Here’s hoping TSLA shares drop from 6-700 to 200 just because Musk is an ahole
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#144This is a very predictable consequence of criticizing your employer via a public letter. Criticize internally all you want, and influence the changes that you want to see happen. Employment is a two-way relationship. If you don't like your employer, you are free to leave. If they don't like you, they are free to fire you (within legal bounds). Publishing an openly critical letter and signing it is a quick way to get…
They critized Musk, factually. Musk is not their employer, SpaceX is, but you just proved their point since you believe Musk and SpaceX are one and the same.
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#145Musk may end up being the most influential person to: 1. Electrify our vehicular infrastructure 2. Get humans to the Moon, if not to Mars 3. Accelerate the unionization of Silicon Valley tech workers His approach to remote-vs-in-office work is less that of a data-informed futurist and more that of an autocrat. Just as he's loudly supporting public free speech as long as it's his speech, I predict within a few months…
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I don't understand why "4. Stay at your company and try to change culture within by organizing collectively, either through the guise of a union or informally" isn't also something you are free to do, besides that you think doing so is not "do[ing] something positive to the society", but is instead "becoming a bunch of cry babies."
Also why is 3 binary? If I am a minority investor in a company, I am not free to criticize the management? I have to buy the majority of the company and fire the management?
It kind of seems like you don't actually understand that soft power exists. The canonical book on this within organizational politics is "Exit, Voice and Loyalty". Have you ever had a social interaction in your entire life? Not everything is an ultimatum, some things are conversations.
Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk
#146Musk may end up being the most influential person to: 1. Electrify our vehicular infrastructure 2. Get humans to the Moon, if not to Mars 3. Accelerate the unionization of Silicon Valley tech workers His approach to remote-vs-in-office work is less that of a data-informed futurist and more that of an autocrat. Just as he's loudly supporting public free speech as long as it's his speech, I predict within a few months…
Are the people working at SpaceX and Tesla "Silicon Valley tech workers"? I think most of them aren't. > he'll be loudly proclaiming his support of democracy Unlikely, given his dependence on China - he'll stay quiet, just like Tim Cook does at Apple.
>Are the people working at SpaceX and Tesla "Silicon Valley tech workers"? I think most of them aren't.
I think they are.
"Silicon Valley" is an idea or abstraction now, rather than a geographic location.
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#147Musk talked so much about "free speech" in recent times!
This move is embarrassing.
You can't just fire people for criticism.
Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk
#148Musk may end up being the most influential person to: 1. Electrify our vehicular infrastructure 2. Get humans to the Moon, if not to Mars 3. Accelerate the unionization of Silicon Valley tech workers His approach to remote-vs-in-office work is less that of a data-informed futurist and more that of an autocrat. Just as he's loudly supporting public free speech as long as it's his speech, I predict within a few months…
Are the people working at SpaceX and Tesla "Silicon Valley tech workers"? I think most of them aren't. > he'll be loudly proclaiming his support of democracy Unlikely, given his dependence on China - he'll stay quiet, just like Tim Cook does at Apple.
I should have just left out the "Silicon Valley" part of that, true. Unionization of developers and technology workers is starting, but remains slow because unions are usually formed when the cost of speaking out becomes worth more than enduring the negatives and unreasonably low pay is usually one of the biggest issues for workers and we don't really have pay issues. Musk's approach to treating his employees as cogs in his machines, to the point of becoming belligerent when they assert their human individuality, could be an accelerant in forming unions even in this high-pay sector.
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Username checks out I guess. This is an extremely low-effort comment. It seems that you would _prefer_ to live in a society where job security is so fragile that a well-meaning letter can get you fired?
What makes you think all companies are like that? Get a job in a company where you won't get fired in a well meaning letter.
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#150Does Elon Musk always ask himself “ok what’s the most petty/childish/immature response I can produce for this situation?” I’m not sure what’s actually wrong with him or if it’s at all clinical or just the billionaire disease of being surrounded by people who agree with you for too long. But I get a feeling there is something a bit off with his behavior and/or mental health, and that it’s been getting worse lately. I…
He has Asperger’s and has talked openly about his difficulty understanding social cues.
https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrom...
I don’t think that fully excuses or justified everything he does, but it has some explanatory power.
It’s obvious by his work output that he is not a very typical person, and it seems like society as a whole is gaining tremendous benefit from his eccentricity. I don’t think we have to like him, but speaking for myself, I still respect him and on the whole am grateful for his life’s work. I wish he’d stay away from Twitter… but, oh well.