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Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by duped »

rwc wrote: post #32
colinmhayes wrote: post #21

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> This would finally motivate me to cancel the cable TV subscription Which is exactly why blackouts exist. Live tv is pretty much solely about sports and 24 hour news channels now. The big four sports leagues all make billions a year off their TV deals. Giving up blackouts would absolutely hamstring them. Hard to believe the other leagues will give up blackouts until they are confident they can run their own streamin…

As I understand it, blackouts primarily exist to ensure local ticket sales for full stadiums. "In most cases, the blackout results when a sports league prohibits an event from being televised locally if the event did not sell out all its tickets." https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/sports-blackouts#:~:tex... .)

These days blackouts on streaming services are due to exclusive broadcast rights on local networks. Teams aren't (usually) dumb enough to black out the entire region because of bad ticket sales. They learned that it creates a negative feedback loop that kills the local fan base, the Chicago Blackhawks are a good case study.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

dylan604 wrote: post #178
bwing wrote: post #104

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This overestimates the role of international soccer in predicting future international soccer success. Players get 99% of their development with their club teams. While it is crucial for Americans to regularly play good teams, this experience is mostly going to happen in top European leagues and the Champions League. And we're in the midst of a huge boom period for Americans in Europe, with young Americans playing re…

Belgium has not one but two players named Hazard, a Mertens, a Lukaku, a Tielemens, just to name a few. It's not surprising they've jumped in the standings with a squad like that. They also have Martinez as a coach. Just look at the recent fixture list of the USMNT[0]. I'm really not meaning to offend, but these are not soccer power house types of squads they are facing. The USMNT has a long long way to go. As long a…

I do like your nomenclature of "American Throwball", I might use that one in the future.

This is the unfortunate truth, IMO. As long as football is a distant fourth or fifth in American sports priorities, I don't see a reality where it excels. Why would it, when the athletes who could probably do amazing go to the other sports where they make 20x as much at a minimum, but more likely 200x as much?

Given the current trajectory of things, I simply don't see it changing either. Without some sort of black swan event either seriously incentivizing football or disincentivizing the other sports, there is no immediate path to the traction necessary to make football popular enough in the States for the USMNT to be a world class player in the next few decades.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by sjs382 »

ecdavis wrote: post #175
jayknight wrote: post #23

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MLB next, please. I don't have cable, which means I just don't watch baseball right now. I would 100% sign up for MLB.tv if I could watch my two favorite teams play.

I don't watch baseball, but I always assumed MLB.tv and NHL.tv used the same technology. The way NHL.tv used to work, the blackout check would be done when you opened the stream. So you could connect to a VPN in, say, Germany, start the stream, then disconnect the VPN and after a brief interruption the playback would continue. If you did the VPN connection from your router you could stream from any device, too. Funny…

NHL used to use MLBAM. Now the NHL package goes through ESPN+.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by dylan604 »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #182
dylan604 wrote: post #178

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Belgium has not one but two players named Hazard, a Mertens, a Lukaku, a Tielemens, just to name a few. It's not surprising they've jumped in the standings with a squad like that. They also have Martinez as a coach. Just look at the recent fixture list of the USMNT[0]. I'm really not meaning to offend, but these are not soccer power house types of squads they are facing. The USMNT has a long long way to go. As long a…

I do like your nomenclature of "American Throwball", I might use that one in the future. This is the unfortunate truth, IMO. As long as football is a distant fourth or fifth in American sports priorities, I don't see a reality where it excels. Why would it, when the athletes who could probably do amazing go to the other sports where they make 20x as much at a minimum, but more likely 200x as much? Given the current t…

The fact that MLS came out with an ad campaign shouting themselves as the 5th Major Sport was such an abysmal PR campaign, that I just cannot ever respect them after the fact.

They are literally celebrating the fact that they are not EPL, they are not Championship, they are not League 1 and on down the line. WTF! were they thinking that self deprecation was going to work at that level???!!!! You know, when you're bored with NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, there's us little guys called MLS. No, you're not trying to buy a house, we're a real sports league. For reality not for realty!!!

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by noirbot »

syntaxfree wrote: post #159
noirbot wrote: post #145

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My guess is that those are actually the teams you're least likely to have a lot of fans of. LA, NYC, and Boston all already have massive and influential sports teams. The folks likely to want to watch/know about MLS are in the cities that don't - Kansas City, Austin, to a lesser extent Atlanta or Portland. MLS is being fairly smart with its expansion and focusing on cities where they're not trying to pull fans away f…

> not trying to pull fans away from the NY Yankees In this thread we’ve learned there’s a New York Red Bulls and a New York Football Club.

Correct, but if you look at the MLS in general, they have a lot of teams in under-served cities. The post I was responding to was claiming that the MLS is doing a bad job because there aren't many fans of the NYC teams, which may be true, but A. There's a lot of people in NYC, so even niche things can be popular enough to be a good idea. B. MLS has a lot of well-liked teams that aren't in major areas.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by culturestate »

freck wrote: post #144
culturestate wrote: post #118

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> Do you really think Apple demanded a subscription give-away? I don’t, but it’s really not the most outlandish idea. It gives every season ticket holder a reason to either buy an Apple TV or, maybe more importantly, start using the Apple TV app on their existing devices. Imagine you’re an Orlando City fan who’s happy with Hulu and never really cared to open the Apple TV app on your Samsung TV. Now that you’re using…

But season ticket holders as a group are probably the ones most likely to pay for a season of MLS. Why not let them pay and get exposed to Ted Lasso on their own dime?

> Why not let them pay and get exposed to Ted Lasso on their own dime?

Because the marginal cost for Apple is near zero, and many consumers are cheap.

“You’re telling me I have to pay $X for MLS, and now you want me to pay $5 more for this Jason Sudeikis show?? Screw that.”

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by foogazi »

duped wrote: post #180
MrMetlHed wrote: post #105

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It is really annoying that MLB.TV has gone the route with games on other providers. I don't want to create another account or install some other app on my TV or phone for a few games a season. At least the radio broadcasts still work on mlb.com when it happens.

It's the teams' faults and not the network. Most franchises that have blackouts have negotiated exclusive broadcast rights in their local markets.

I think it’s fair to bundle that into “it’s MLB’s fault”

MLB has consolidated a lot of the teams’ media properties under its umbrella

A long time ago they restricted radio stations from distributing baseball games online for example

But they double-dip on TV:

- Allow blackouts to increase revenue from local TV - Sell MLB.TV

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by thirdsun »

tamersalama wrote: post #153

Every soccer league is on a different provider. I'm in Canada. The Premier League is on DAZN. MLS is on Apple TV. La Liga is on fuboTV (or Amazon Prime). It's all the same sport. Multiply that by X if another family member is interested another sport. I don't know what the future holds, but the sports entertainment fragmentation might be hurting more than helping. Perhaps Apple is on their way to consolidate.

> Every soccer league is on a different provider.

Over here in europe you need multiple providers for the same competition since the rights are split. Champions League football (as in soccer) requires a Sky, DAZN and Amazon Prime subscription if you want to see all matches (of your favorite club). Same thing with most domestic leagues.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by NonNefarious »

umeshunni wrote: post #168
NonNefarious wrote: post #135

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What delivery medium (especially in the USA) has the throughput to deliver anything worthy of being called "4K?"

Huh? 4k requires only 32Mbps. Most people can stream that on their phones

Pfff, what a fraud. Sure, you can blow compression-artifact-ridden crap up to any resolution you want. Doesn't make it worthy of being called "4K."
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