The silent majority of experts (2012)
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The silent majority of experts (2012)
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Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#2There’s a subset of this silent majority who tried to contribute to discussion platforms but gave up when they saw prominent voices that had next to no idea what they were talking about being promoted, hailed, and so on. The loudest voice is rarely the most articulate, and for subject matter experts articulation, nuance, and other learned-through-experience things count for a lot, one would assume.
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#3The Silent Majority of Experts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7015139 - Jan 2014 (37 comments)
The Silent Majority of Experts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4243573 - July 2012 (115 comments)
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#4And I think it’s especially important to keep in mind that we have a generational divide among experts even now, that introduces a bias to the particular expertise that gets shared.
Not only have many deeply experienced, talented experts naturally shifted their surplus attention to other life responsibilities like families, health issues, etc — but many younger experts grew up with a social media fluency that makes engaging online more natural to them.
So even without evaluating what’s said by each, you inevitably see a lot more of the opinions of these younger experts and less from the old greybeards with differently informed perspectives.
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#5- Wine is not an emulation
- MS-DOS is not an OS because it cant do paging and virtual memory
- Microprocessors are not Microcontrollers because they have paging
There are also some tinier things like notorious NIH syndrome due to not reading documentation, like the tons of blog articles about SSH features that could all be replaced by ten minutes of reading ssh-keygen(1).
I've seen that on IRC, Reddit and HN as well, and i ended up preferring official documentation over anything else what people online say. If this writing sounds like venting, it surely is.
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#6However, the actual experts I knew in high school who later went on to great institutions like MIT or applied and got into extremely competitive investment banks didn't browse the internet very much, or relied on supplements and these books.
Similar to the ideas expressed in the submitted article, these people didn't spend time online reading blogs and Reddit, or blogging/self-promoting themselves. They generally were involved in a sport (track and field or squash), spent little time online, and spent a lot of time using a lot of paper studying.
They also were careful who they associated with as friends (they hung out with studious people). Less in one's control, their parents were financially successful or were in competitive positions (e.g. were professors or physicians), so they may have learned these strategies from them, versus inventing them independently.
Long story short: there is absolutely a culture of improvement that is primarily offline and less visible, because people either don't record it, or people do record it and it doesn't get upvoted or ranked highly on Google searches. Examples of recorded good advice appeared on HN recently, shared by computer scientist Donald Knuth who is also usually offline: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31482116
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#7> Yes, there are many people who blog and otherwise publicly discuss development methodologies and what they're working on, but there are even more people who don't. Blogging takes time, for example, and not everyone enjoys it. Other people are working on commercial products and can't divulge the inner workings of their code. There’s a subset of this silent majority who tried to contribute to discussion platforms but…
And if there's not something to "verify" the writer/performer, it can get wildly out of control. The streamers that claim to be good at the game they're playing can be verified (and many don't even need to be, it is entertainment after all) but the agile evangelist doesn't have the same way to prove it.
If you try to say something that's not the "defacto thought" of the group, you have to be even better at all the above, which makes it even more likely that those who go against the grain remain silent.
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#8This is sometimes a bit infuriating, because due to these online forums, there developed some "common sense" that is factually wrong. I can recount following misbeliefs from my head: - Wine is not an emulation - MS-DOS is not an OS because it cant do paging and virtual memory - Microprocessors are not Microcontrollers because they have paging There are also some tinier things like notorious NIH syndrome due to not re…
Official documentation can be a great source, but in things like ssh-keygen there are often just way too many options and so people want "just tell me how to do what I want to do". One of the reasons sane defaults are so important.
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#9Yep. On a related note, when I was younger, I searched for advice from experts for how to develop expertise in studying and productivity on Reddit. It led to lots of highly-upvoted advice (including stuff like supplements, largely with few real benefits besides placebo), popular blogs by influencers (like Scott Young), and popular self-help books. However, the actual experts I knew in high school who later went on to…
Re: The silent majority of experts (2012)
#10> Yes, there are many people who blog and otherwise publicly discuss development methodologies and what they're working on, but there are even more people who don't. Blogging takes time, for example, and not everyone enjoys it. Other people are working on commercial products and can't divulge the inner workings of their code. There’s a subset of this silent majority who tried to contribute to discussion platforms but…
Almost certainly if you're good at blogging, speaking, self-promotion you're not the most expert in some other field. The cases where there's a cross-over are perhaps not surprisingly rare (Raymond Chen is a good one, John Carmack) or are indirect (Linus doesn't "blog" per se but some of the mailing list emails are as good as one). And if there's not something to "verify" the writer/performer, it can get wildly out o…
This would explain a lot of bad programming books.