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Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Also known as 100M people who may have died without medical care, but were provided it despite their inability to pay for it. If you remove the ability for medical workers to seek payment for their services, most medical workers are just gonna say fuck it and not work for free. Medical care providers have families they have to feed too.

Do all of the medical providers in other nations with universal healthcare have starving families?

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Still better than dealing with rationing. The rest of the world better hope the US never goes socialist with health care - kiss innovation goodbye.

For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote away though :p

Yes, I will always vote down comments talking about down votes, and the comments they reference, regardless of what they are talking about.

Comments talking about voting (including this one) are worthless, and deserve every down vote they get.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote away though :p

Go ask any law enforcement officer, fire fighter, or EMT how many times a week they hear "please don't call an ambulance, I can't afford it" and the answer will be so depressing that you may change your tone about this.

No point arguing with people about this, they believe those who can’t afford it are in that situation because of personal moral failings

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Still better than dealing with rationing. The rest of the world better hope the US never goes socialist with health care - kiss innovation goodbye.

We already have rationing. My (expensive FAANG-funded) health insurance said no MRI without 4 weeks of PT. Yes, technically I could pay the couple thousand dollars out of pocket, but in most socialized health care systems you can do that as well.

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Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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post #73

Still better than dealing with rationing. The rest of the world better hope the US never goes socialist with health care - kiss innovation goodbye.

Is this just sarcasm? Rage bait? Are you out of touch? Poor people already ration care. I experienced it first hand working in a grocery store. God forbid you got hurt or sick because you'd be losing work days aka income. Then you'd be eating less or borrowing money or skipping a few medications. But, sure, socialism in healthcare * like every other developed economy* will stifle innovation.

U.S. healthcare underperforms in most verticals. High cost is the primary reason that prevents Americans from accessing health care services. Americans with below-average incomes are much more affected, since visiting a physician when sick, getting a recommended test, or follow-up care has become unaffordable. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2...

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Interesting: > For many Americans, debt from medical or dental care may be relatively low. About a third owe less than $1,000, the KFF poll found. I wonder how they'd count me, who puts all expenses on a credit card and pays it off each month, technically I'm going into debt ...

You are assuming $1000 is easy to pay off. This is simply not true for the working poor.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#97
not that it honestly matters. the whole cabal of private healthcare has become such a teetering house of cards post covid that credit reporting agencies no longer count medical debt in your score.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/medical-debt...

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#98

Also known as 100M people who may have died without medical care, but were provided it despite their inability to pay for it. If you remove the ability for medical workers to seek payment for their services, most medical workers are just gonna say fuck it and not work for free. Medical care providers have families they have to feed too.

I don't think anyone is suggesting medical providers do not get paid.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#99

Also known as 100M people who may have died without medical care, but were provided it despite their inability to pay for it. If you remove the ability for medical workers to seek payment for their services, most medical workers are just gonna say fuck it and not work for free. Medical care providers have families they have to feed too.

Do all of the medical providers in other nations with universal healthcare have starving families?

The US doesn't have universal healthcare, so there's not a great mechanism for health care workers to earn a living without charging client for it. Some charities excepted.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#100
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all the downvoters - this was also on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31767347 Downvote away though :p

Yes, I will always vote down comments talking about down votes, and the comments they reference, regardless of what they are talking about. Comments talking about voting (including this one) are worthless, and deserve every down vote they get.

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