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Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
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Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
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You might want to consider changing your sleep schedule to something close to a uberman polyphasic schedule. Can you nap during your lunch break? Restricting your naps to 20mins or less prevents you from entering the deep sleep stages which make you groggy and tired. Just take them more frequently, like 4-5 hrs apart. It may sound ridiculous but i've found it pretty effective. Even though I'm moonlighting I still cod…
I've done the polyphasic sleep thing for ~3 months last year. You can forget about coding for the first 10-12 days or so while you acclimatize (or at least I found it very very hard). And if you don't initiate yourself exactly right you'll find you've wasted a whole month just getting dog tired. While you do suddenly seem to get a lot of time it makes any kind of socializing hard since you have to sleep every 3-4 hou…
jsjenkins168 wrote:
Theres actually research out there that proves this is true
hmmm.. I found research in this area very lacking. The only scientific study seemed to be from sleep researcher Claudio Stampi and his essentially said "If you absolutely can't keep regular sleeping schedules (like in long sailing races) then polyphasic sleep is a better alternative".
If you have pointers to papers I'd appreciate links sent to the email-id in my profile. I might try this again someday.
Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've done the polyphasic sleep thing for ~3 months last year. You can forget about coding for the first 10-12 days or so while you acclimatize (or at least I found it very very hard). And if you don't initiate yourself exactly right you'll find you've wasted a whole month just getting dog tired. While you do suddenly seem to get a lot of time it makes any kind of socializing hard since you have to sleep every 3-4 hou…
jsjenkins168 wrote: Theres actually research out there that proves this is true hmmm.. I found research in this area very lacking. The only scientific study seemed to be from sleep researcher Claudio Stampi and his essentially said "If you absolutely can't keep regular sleeping schedules (like in long sailing races) then polyphasic sleep is a better alternative". If you have pointers to papers I'd appreciate links se…
The only good research I've been able to find is contained in the book "Why We Nap" by Stampi and Broughton. Sounds like we're talking about the same source. Unfortunately, its no longer in print so therefore very very hard to find..
I'll shoot you an email if I find more.. My co-founder knows more about this stuff than me I'll ask him.
Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#14i've done this kind of thing for spans of a year or two. besides the advice you're probably already getting, i'd say going running regularly helps a lot. when i was running, i'd be have a lot more energy throughout the day and night; when i wasn't i'd want to nap when i got home.
finding a cofounder is also a big productivity boost. find one early -- the more progress you make by yourself the harder it is to get someone else excited about "your" idea. if you're moonlighting, it's easy to put this off, but you're only hurting yourself long term. (i used to believe the single founder thing was doable for a while, but all of pg's counterarguments are right.)
Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
jsjenkins168 wrote: Theres actually research out there that proves this is true hmmm.. I found research in this area very lacking. The only scientific study seemed to be from sleep researcher Claudio Stampi and his essentially said "If you absolutely can't keep regular sleeping schedules (like in long sailing races) then polyphasic sleep is a better alternative". If you have pointers to papers I'd appreciate links se…
The only good research I've been able to find is contained in the book "Why We Nap" by Stampi and Broughton. Sounds like we're talking about the same source. Unfortunately, its no longer in print so therefore very very hard to find.. I'll shoot you an email if I find more.. My co-founder knows more about this stuff than me I'll ask him.
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Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only good research I've been able to find is contained in the book "Why We Nap" by Stampi and Broughton. Sounds like we're talking about the same source. Unfortunately, its no longer in print so therefore very very hard to find.. I'll shoot you an email if I find more.. My co-founder knows more about this stuff than me I'll ask him.
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Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#17I've been working 2 weeks now full time, and been trying to work on my own startup on nights and weekends. I didn't know how hard it was when people talked about it until now. And I thought school and startup was hard. To illustrate, I come home at 6pm, fall asleep until 8pm, code until 1am, sleep from 2am to 8am, and start all over again. I guess this is called moonlighting. I am going to stop this moonlighting stuf…
Two weeks? Wow. And those eight hours of sleep you get seem brutal...
I'm not sure which is worse.. How mean you are or that people are upvoting you. At least he's trying, and he just wanted a little support. From the sound of it, he's a single founder, so it can get pretty harsh.
Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
#18I've been working 2 weeks now full time, and been trying to work on my own startup on nights and weekends. I didn't know how hard it was when people talked about it until now. And I thought school and startup was hard. To illustrate, I come home at 6pm, fall asleep until 8pm, code until 1am, sleep from 2am to 8am, and start all over again. I guess this is called moonlighting. I am going to stop this moonlighting stuf…
Two weeks? Wow. And those eight hours of sleep you get seem brutal...
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Re: Moonlighting? Please Tell Me About It
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Two weeks? Wow. And those eight hours of sleep you get seem brutal...
I'm not sure which is worse.. How mean you are or that people are upvoting you. At least he's trying, and he just wanted a little support. From the sound of it, he's a single founder, so it can get pretty harsh.
I agree. This sounds like a tough schedule. I once tried to write a book at the same time as having a 9-5 job, and I was dismayed at how little time was left over from the job. When you add in travel to and from work, the day's practically shot.
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#20i've been doing this for a little over 3 years now. during grad school i wrote the beta version of my software when i wasn't working on my thesis. now i work during the bulk of my non-day-job time, but i make sure to have leisure time, too.
i think the danger of this lifestyle is the risk of not getting things accomplished in a timely manner. if we spread ourselves too thin we end up with our hands in a bunch of half-full pots.
nonetheless, kudos for the stamina. we have 24 hours every day to use how we see fit. 8 hours for sleep is a given, 8 hours for work is another (almost) given, and what we do with the other 8 hours is the difference between mediocrity and success.
~dean~