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A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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Re: A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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Christianity started as a cult. Protestantism after it.

(You are right of course, Brahmanism is not a cult, but my point is many mainstream religions at one point counted as such before they became well established as their own thing)

Re: A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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It's not illegal to be in a cult. Maybe it's left out for legal reasons, but there's no suggestion in the article that they did bad anything at all to the author. Maybe he was afraid of the whiteness of it, or the allegedly rampant gay sex.

Well he was ignored for promotion

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Until last year I too use to dream working in Google. But increasingly the attractiveness is decreasing. I cannot put a finger on one specific thing. It has gone too large from a career pov.

I used to dream about working at Google until I interviewed with them. I got dragged along for months and largely ignored between interviews. The interviews themselves were impersonal and non interactive. They gave the impression that I should just shut up and write code in front of them and when I asked clarifying questions I barely got anything in response.

I've had mixed experiences with their recruiters, and their interviewers. Some recruiters were on the ball and pushed things forward; others just disappeared. Some interviewers were great, clearly wanted it to be a collaborative thing, so were responsive to the questions I asked and helpful in rubber ducking as I talked through it (I'm thinking here especially of an algorithm session)...others clearly didn't care, were cold and didn't seek to answer anything in a way I could move forward (here I'm thinking of a system design session; exactly where you -need- answers to scope anything out).

I happily never particularly cared one way or the other about working for Google (and only once or twice did their recruiters reach out/get back to me when I was actually looking; I am sufficiently ambivalent that most of the times their recruiters have reached out have been "I'm not currently looking"), but their cachet has only dropped since I started my career, and their remote-as-second-class-citizen approach currently makes it a non-starter for me. I'm not going back to the office.

Re: A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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It's not illegal to be in a cult. Maybe it's left out for legal reasons, but there's no suggestion in the article that they did bad anything at all to the author. Maybe he was afraid of the whiteness of it, or the allegedly rampant gay sex.

Cults do illegal things though, and are generally considered harmful to members.

Re: A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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We changed the URL from https://twitter.com/alphabetworkers/status/15373969466917724..., which points to this.

Submitters: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter."- https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Commenters: please don't post shallow/unsubstantive/flamey things to this thread—or any HN thread, but this one seems to have been unusually triggery. Probably the submitted title "Cults at Google" contributed to that.

Re: A religious sect landed Google in a lawsuit

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I'd be more than happy to join a cult and do their bidding if they got me a good job at Google with good long term prospects, it sounds like a fair deal to me. Mr Lloyd would have been much better off working out a deal with the cult rather than suing his employer, perhaps he could have nominally joined them and tithed 10% in exchange for their nepotism; it's certainly what I would have done.

Did you read the thread where cult members were subjected to physical, sexual, and emotional abuse? Rape and forced abortions?

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Please do not take HN threads into religious flamewar. This is a classic generic flamewar tangent, exactly the sort of thing the site guidelines ask you not to do here. If you'd please review them and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to other threads to. Could you please stop? We ban accounts that do this kind of thing because we're trying for a different sort of forum here.

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That’s called caste…

And Google/Alphabet _really_ doesn't like anyone talking about caste. Because then they'd have to acknowledge they have a problem.

Given Google is probably one of the most woke organizations, I find this hilarious.

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Until last year I too use to dream working in Google. But increasingly the attractiveness is decreasing. I cannot put a finger on one specific thing. It has gone too large from a career pov.

I used to dream about working at Google until I interviewed with them. I got dragged along for months and largely ignored between interviews. The interviews themselves were impersonal and non interactive. They gave the impression that I should just shut up and write code in front of them and when I asked clarifying questions I barely got anything in response.

This is very similar to my experience. TBH, being able to not talk through what I’m coding the _whole_ time, unlike what it shown in the official “What to expect” Google videos, was a relief. Unfortunately, that change in expectation sort of threw me off; there became uncertainty in what was expected of me. This uncertainty hindered my creative juices while problem-solving but nowhere near as bad as the interview prior, which I won’t go into since I am paranoid about the interviewer seeing this comment :)
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