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You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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What? What was with the Eventbrite 'brogrammer' paragraph? You seem to say that 'marrying' social life and technology is a bad thing, but it's the segue into her (apparent) use of user groups and networking to further her career. Also: Bottom line: If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends. Uh. No. If you drop universal statements like…

What is a brogrammer , anyway? I am imagining something like the Cheezburger "Bro" site, but sitting at a computer??

Bros before Hoes

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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What? What was with the Eventbrite 'brogrammer' paragraph? You seem to say that 'marrying' social life and technology is a bad thing, but it's the segue into her (apparent) use of user groups and networking to further her career. Also: Bottom line: If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends. Uh. No. If you drop universal statements like…

The 'brogrammer' line was my vain attempt to drop some humor into the article. I'm an engineer, not a writer, and I'm learning through comments like the ones you made to better my writing for the future, and to find out what is appropriate and what is not. Thanks for the feedback.

That "brogrammer" part was ambiguous, and it wasn't clear whether it was meant as a compliment or a complain. Reading the next paragraph about her going to meetups and advancing her career does make it clear that it was meant to be positive, but I still find the premise and conclusion inconsistent.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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"If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends." Friends serve a number of purposes. Some make us better people, some accept and support us for who we are. The best ones manage to do both at the same time. But I think looking at a friendship from the angle of how it can benefit you and make you a better person is a somewhat selfish metric…

> But I think looking at a friendship from the angle of how it can benefit you and make you a better person is a somewhat selfish metric upon which to judge the quality or value of a friend.

I was put off by the article in a way I couldn't quite pin down. What you said was exactly it.

I'm all for intellectual stimulation by interacting with people in the same profession, but that's not all there is to life. It's certainly not all there is to being a happy and successful person, at least in my book. If my friends happen to be in the same profession, that's great. I'm not ready to declare that anyone outside of development is unworthy of my time.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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post #71
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a brogrammer , anyway? I am imagining something like the Cheezburger "Bro" site, but sitting at a computer??

Bros before Hoes

English isn't my first language, but I believe "hoe" means prostitute, and doesn't have any positive connotations in any context.

Your remark doesn't have anything to do with the context, and is offensive.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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post #38

What? What was with the Eventbrite 'brogrammer' paragraph? You seem to say that 'marrying' social life and technology is a bad thing, but it's the segue into her (apparent) use of user groups and networking to further her career. Also: Bottom line: If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends. Uh. No. If you drop universal statements like…

The 'brogrammer' line was my vain attempt to drop some humor into the article. I'm an engineer, not a writer, and I'm learning through comments like the ones you made to better my writing for the future, and to find out what is appropriate and what is not. Thanks for the feedback.

Haha, s/engineer/theoretical physicist/ and you sound like TBBT's Sheldon Cooper.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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I know this is barely relevant, but anyway: if we're all the average of our 5 closest friends, it means we're all identical, unless the population is split into disjoint subgroups that have no friendships between them.

If that's not the case, how could the highest-quality person have 5 friends? By definition, they're all worse than her, so their average can't be equal to her, unless we're all equal.

Anyway, back to the anecdotes about Eventbrite or whatever.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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I know this is barely relevant, but anyway: if we're all the average of our 5 closest friends, it means we're all identical, unless the population is split into disjoint subgroups that have no friendships between them. If that's not the case, how could the highest-quality person have 5 friends? By definition, they're all worse than her, so their average can't be equal to her, unless we're all equal. Anyway, back to t…

Consider an icosahedron. At each vertex a person with a vector pointing outwards. In this example, people are normalized and can be understood by 3 dimensions. There you have 12 unique persons, each of them an average of the 5 surrounding it. Pick one of them as the best, you will see that doesn't in any way violate that it is still the average.

Anyway, yeah, it also smells bad, but it could have a grain of truth.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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post #78

I know this is barely relevant, but anyway: if we're all the average of our 5 closest friends, it means we're all identical, unless the population is split into disjoint subgroups that have no friendships between them. If that's not the case, how could the highest-quality person have 5 friends? By definition, they're all worse than her, so their average can't be equal to her, unless we're all equal. Anyway, back to t…

Consider an icosahedron. At each vertex a person with a vector pointing outwards. In this example, people are normalized and can be understood by 3 dimensions. There you have 12 unique persons, each of them an average of the 5 surrounding it. Pick one of them as the best, you will see that doesn't in any way violate that it is still the average. Anyway, yeah, it also smells bad, but it could have a grain of truth.

Ah, and I had assumed we were scalars!

But you're right, and what's even better is that the icosahedron case generalizes to people walking on the surface of a sphere (assuming they're evenly spaced).

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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post #74
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bros before Hoes

English isn't my first language, but I believe "hoe" means prostitute, and doesn't have any positive connotations in any context. Your remark doesn't have anything to do with the context, and is offensive.

"Ho" means prostitute. "Hoe" means garden tool.
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