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Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Blame the senator from West Virginia who refused to vote on some of the Dems bills.

Blame Democrats for the college educated urban-dominated coalition they’ve deliberately chosen. I recall some activist types talking a few years ago about whether pro life Dems like Manchin should be kicked out of the party. Though it’s the House not the Senate, Dems just lost a longtime majority-Hispanic seat in south Texas: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/14/texas-special-electi.... To give you an idea of the temperature of that room, the Dem candidate had run as “a ‘conservative Democrat’ and ‘pro-life’ Catholic.” National Dems are making a deliberate choice to abandon those Dem voters, just as they did with working class white people in the Midwest. Remember when Dems had 60 Senate seats, including in states like South Dakota? It wasn’t ancient history it was 2008.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Blame the senator from West Virginia who refused to vote on some of the Dems bills.

did they put the Medicare for all on vote? if not, you can't just assume that if they didn't want more reckless government spending(thank God they stpped at that, the damage is already immense) they also don't want medicare for all.

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Democrats do not control the Senate.

There are 48 Democrat Sentors and 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats, one of whom has sought the Democratic nomination for President. That’s 50 votes, plus the Democratic VP to break any tie. While it might be correct to say the Democrats do not have a majority in the Senate, its not incorrect to say they do control the Senate.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Defining the problem so broadly makes it less likely that it will be solved. We already have high inflation in part because of high government transfers during the pandemic, and handing out money to 100M people with medical debt or student loan debt would aggravate this.

high government transfers during the pandemic The government would like you to believe that, but a good chunk of the problem is supply-side, not demand-side.

Milton Friedman famously said: “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”

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Democrats do not control the Senate.

There are 48 Democrat Sentors and 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats, one of whom has sought the Democratic nomination for President. That’s 50 votes, plus the Democratic VP to break any tie. While it might be correct to say the Democrats do not have a majority in the Senate, its not incorrect to say they do control the Senate.

The Democrats control the one spending bill a year subject to the Byrd rule. All other bills require 60 senators.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Democrats do not control the Senate.

There are 48 Democrat Sentors and 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats, one of whom has sought the Democratic nomination for President. That’s 50 votes, plus the Democratic VP to break any tie. While it might be correct to say the Democrats do not have a majority in the Senate, its not incorrect to say they do control the Senate.

In the context of voting for taxpayer funded healthcare, or any other broad population wide benefit program / tax increase, it would be inaccurate to label Manchin and Sinema as Democrats.

Same as when Affordable Care Act was being molded, a couple of “Democrat” senators like Leiberman sank any chance a taxpayer funded option. Just like Manchin and Sinema sank Biden’s universal preschool/daycare and paid parental leave proposal last year.

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high government transfers during the pandemic The government would like you to believe that, but a good chunk of the problem is supply-side, not demand-side.

Milton Friedman famously said: “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”

We have a housing crisis and an energy crisis. There's absolutely no need to drag monetary theory in when the outcome is due to failed industrial policy.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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so 30% of the country's population has medical debt.. what the hell

And 70m of the population is 18 and under. So apparently the percentage of people with medical debt who are over 18 is quite substantial. Didn't realize it was so significant myself.
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