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Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by galoisgirl »

anon291 wrote: post #245

ADHD is not a disease. Expecting children to pay attention to boring adults is. A good portion of teachers are incredibly unanimated and boring. They should not be teaching ADHD kids. Look, my mother has ADHD (or something like it), and she had no problem teaching the (mostly boys) in her class with ADHD. A few even went off their meds in her class. Unfortunately, the next year, they were put right back on with a new…

ADHD is when you have trouble paying attention to most teachers, not just the boring ones.

Happy for the kids, but when they're adults, they'll find out that they have many other executive functions impaired, not just attention management, and the cool teacher won't fix these.

Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by galoisgirl »

speedmagnet wrote: post #82
CodeMage wrote: post #29

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It's more horrifying to me that HN has turned into a kind of place where people will confidently assert their judgment something they have no knowledge about. My son has ADHD. There are other ADHD cases in the family, so we knew that could be the case with him, but we waited until he was in middle school to even try to check, because we didn't want him to "depend on drugs", as the trope goes. We got the diagnosis fro…

In my opinion it's normal for some kids or people to be distracted easily or have more energy than others. They require more attention. Also a child's brain is not fully developed. Why do we expect all kids to be great at focusing? Do you think the focus is worth the reported short and long-term side effects[0]? [0] https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=aff...

Errr okay...That's like your uninformed opinion, bro.

Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by kurupt213 »

sph wrote: post #171
kurupt213 wrote: post #128

weird. amphetamine is one of the medications of last resort for debilitating depression

Last resort doesn't mean it's not effective. And depression is often a symptom, not an illness itself. In the case of ADHD, amphetamine helps the dopamine dysfunction which in turns alleviates the depressive symptoms.

Last resort normally means the cons are plentiful.

With adderall and Dexedrine, there is high likelihood of habit forming psychological addiction if not physical addiction. There’s the ever increasing tolerance, etc.

But sometimes dopamine and norepinephrine levels are so low you need a firehouse.

Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by galoisgirl »

swayvil wrote: post #217
throwaway420691 wrote: post #59

unless you require acute trauma care, look away from western medicine for solutions to your problems

My friend, an ex head nurse, agrees. She puts it like this. Unless you are in great pain, or can't walk, stay completely away from doctors and hospitals.

Yes, all people in hospitals are sick or injured. Don't go there.

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Post by freemint »

tjridesbikes wrote: post #135

Anecdata, but I've been on methylphenidate (Concerta) since age 7, and holy cow has it impacted my life in an insanely positive way. 21 years later, I'm still on Concerta, but excelling in my career, spending meaningful time with friends, family, and hobbies, and generally pretty happy with myself. When I tried dropping the meds in college, my life basically fell apart in a matter of months. My then-girlfriend now-wi…

How many mg at what body weight did you settle on?

Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by anon291 »

galoisgirl wrote: post #311
anon291 wrote: post #245

ADHD is not a disease. Expecting children to pay attention to boring adults is. A good portion of teachers are incredibly unanimated and boring. They should not be teaching ADHD kids. Look, my mother has ADHD (or something like it), and she had no problem teaching the (mostly boys) in her class with ADHD. A few even went off their meds in her class. Unfortunately, the next year, they were put right back on with a new…

ADHD is when you have trouble paying attention to most teachers, not just the boring ones. Happy for the kids, but when they're adults, they'll find out that they have many other executive functions impaired, not just attention management, and the cool teacher won't fix these.

My mother is not a cool teacher -- at all. We shouldn't conflate interesting and engaging with 'cool'.

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Post by mrtranscendence »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #254
mrtranscendence wrote: post #216

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This is prime kook right here. You don’t see it every day. Most psychiatric problems are not due to a nutritional deficiency. My B6 levels aren’t causing my adhd.

Kook huh? Nice. Is that why I’ve been able to get off all of my medications? Because I’m a kook and I don’t know anything about neurobiology? Or anything about immunology? Or genetics? You say your B6 levels are not causing your ADHD, but have you ever had them tested? Yeah it’s so "kooky" that they keep finding B6 defieicny over and over in children with ADHD. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/303406 And heck, you might tr…

I've been checked for vitamin deficiencies before, though I don't know if B6 was specifically checked. Regardless, they only found that I was low on vitamin D and so I do take a multivitamin, though I have doubts that it helps in practice. I have also indirectly supplemented vitamin B6 and B12 via frequent energy drink usage (not the healthiest thing I admit!). I notice no difference to mood, physical comfort, or ADHD symptoms on or off vitamin supplementation.

> My Schizoaffective Bipolar Disorder is caused by nutrition.

I suppose anything is possible, but from what I know -- I'm not a psychiatric professional but I've lived with one for 20 years -- it sounds unlikely to be true for most people with similar diagnoses. Believe me, psychiatric hospitals would love to make more beds available by "curing" mental illness with diet.

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Post by Sinidir »

smeagull wrote: post #299
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #169

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Why is it so strange that an amphetamine would get rid of depression?

Weirdest thing to me is that it helped me with my sleep issues. 8 hours at regular times, all of a sudden.

How much did you sleep before. I'm reading these kinds of threads and finding lots of similarities with my life. I generally sleep 10 hours a day and have trouble getting out of bed.

Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up

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Post by ryloric »

sph wrote: post #214
billjings wrote: post #205

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I did the same thing as you. I wasn't on Concerta for as long; I started on Ritalin in 3rd grade, and switched to Concerta my senior year of high school. I dropped all meds in college. I actually tried TWICE to drop my meds. Each time my life fell apart, as you described. The second time, however, I did not interpret my life falling apart the way you did: instead of interpreting it as validation of the medication's e…

I have said this many times already: the downside of medicating children is that they never have a chance of learning how dysfunctional ADHD is. Then they blame the medication because they find they can't function without it. No shit, that's why you were taking it. I have been diagnosed in my 30s and when I stop medication, my life returns to the same exact shit it's been for 30 years. It feels like falling apart, be…

You ever get over the feeling of regret for not knowing and feeling like you've wasted potential and valuable time in your 20s? Diagnosed 2 years ago and I still catch myself regretting it atleast 5-6 times a week, it's like the thought never goes away.
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