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This sounds like a great way to work multiple jobs at once, under the table, then stiff your employers. Oh, and all without you as an employee having any of the employment protections and benefits provided by your government.

I just don't see this taking off in any significant way for legitimate work.

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#112
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Most of this stuff is in crypto/smart contract/DeFi space…which is currently imploding. That being said I do like the idea of anon friendly work. Not even for the anonymity, but for being full async. I’ve tried looking for opportunities for work outside of my 9-5 in the past and it surprised me how difficult it was to find anything. Ultimately I gave up and cut some expenses instead.

Most salaried 9-5 jobs have conflict of interest clauses that prevent you from concurrently working for other employers without agreement from your first employer anyway (From a legal standpoint, this is generally regarded as part of the difference between salaried and hourly labor)

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

#113
The first time one of these companies hire someone from Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba or any of the other countries under sanctions practically everywhere and et hit by multi-million dollar penalties and severe restrictions on how they can operate in the future, this thing will stop being a thing.

How would they even know, if a competitor got hired to work for them?

This might possibly be a good thing for workers, but there's so much risk involved for the employer, any competent legal expert would strongly advice against it.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suspect you would not be considered an employee but a contractor. I am not sure how they much they're required to report about their vendors.

It's not an arbitrary choice whether to treat a particular interaction as an employee or as a contractor - the nuances are a bit tricky, but in general it's prohibited to treat it as contracting if it isn't actual contracting but if someone is working what we'd call a standard full time job at a company. The obvious way (mentioned elsewhere here) is that you can reasonably provide services as a business - non-anonymo…

> It's not an arbitrary choice whether to treat a particular interaction as an employee or as a contractor - the nuances are a bit tricky, but in general it's prohibited to treat it as contracting if it isn't actual contracting but if someone is working what we'd call a standard full time job at a company.

Yea, but I suspect these are all going to be remote jobs with people in other countries at which point they're all contractors. It's only people in the same country as the company since generally the thing they're trying to avoid is tax evasion and they don't care if they can't tax you.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember reading in the last year about one of the crypto companies that hired an anonymous employee. (Maybe it was the Zcash Foundation? I can't for the life of me find the article about what they did.) Basically, they kept as low as possible the number of people who knew their real identity. That person or persons would verify employment and file the appropriate paperwork.

Yes! And I think that's an important point to consider. Personally I think of "anon friendly" as existing on a spectrum. Organizations offer various degrees of it. Some "anon friendly lite" organizations will allow you to work pseudonymously, the entire organization doesn't need to know your legal identity, but certain personnel (like execs/HR) will. On the other end of the spectrum are organizations that offer "full…

> On the other end of the spectrum are organizations that offer "full anon friendly" where they don't request any information about your legal identity.

Have an example, besides jobs that are completely in-person and pay is done in cash/without government reporting?

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#117

Aren't employers in most jurisdictions required to verify work eligibility and report income? Does "pseudonymously" just mean that they these employers commit to supporting your alternative identity when engaging with the public, the way publishers might handle a pen name? Or is this something different? I'm probably not the only person who will wonder about this, so it might help to put the answer as text on the sit…

Do offshoring / outsourcing companies need to report India/whereever worker IDs?

No, but if the endpoint worker was from the source country (not the outsourced country), then the arrangement would fall foul of anti-tax-evasion legislation in most countries.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

#119

So what is doxxing anyway? Is the concern that anyone googling you will find you phone number or address? Why is that so bad in general? As long as you are not in some unique position like a famous person or something.

I would be happy to start from a definition of doxxing and explain why it is not a good thing, but I am curious as to why you might not find the prospect of your address and phone number being revealed disturbing. Very boring, non-unique people get death threats all the time online. Even though the rate of online threats turning to violence against random users is demonstrably low, would you not be troubled to know y…

The first line on that page is literally "don't doxx yourself for work". You are only informing your employer of a few vital stats. The employer keeps that information private. There's no death threat involved.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For crypto, this is actually somewhat reasonable. I'm sure this sounds "dumb" to traditional users, but if you are a community manager of a cryptocurrency, you will probably have near continuous 7x24 attacks on you in an attempt to take over accounts or other similar BS. They frequently try exponentially harder on the non technical members because of the assumption that the people working on the tech are more likely…

It's interesting how this plays out with crypto and not exactly the same / intensity with traditional finance employees.

No, it's not really a surprise when you step back and think about it—the core purpose of cryptocurrencies is to provide for immutable, "trustless" transactions that cannot be refunded or disputed. Instead, these transactions are based only on technical constructs (passwords, private keys), rather than social constructs (signatures, invoices, remittances). Additionally, the internal controls that are designed to prevent one rogue employee from doing anything are much more extensive and mature in the finance industry, since it's had longer to develop them and doesn't have to rely on purely "automatic" technical factors. "Compromising" a traditional finance employee's account might be embarrassing for their employer, and may result in the leaking of trade secrets or other sensitive information, but the actual financial loss is going to be very minimal.
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