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Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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I'm not sure if anyone else caught Jessica trying to follow up about the serendipitous meetings of people like Sean Parker in the Valley. I think he's completely discounting some of the experiences and chance happenings that acted as a catalyst to Facebook's success.

It goes back to what PG said at YCNYC that apparently he caught a lot of flack for - these types of occurrences, while they happen, are just far too infrequent in other places with less vibrant tech communities.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #8

I saw the talk, and felt his point was hypocritical. He said that FB couldn't have made it outside of the valley, but that knowing what he knows now, it probably could were he starting it today. In other words, he needed the valley when he was young and inexperienced, but it's not necessary if you have the experience and connections already. [Edit: The reason I'm saying it's hypocritical is because his point was init…

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Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #5

One reason to live in the Valley is the opportunity to exercise outdoors in shorts and a t-shirt 365 days a year. That's why I want to move out there, anyway. Winter is highly overrated.

I grew up in Wisconsin. We not only had snow days, but we had cold days, where the school wasn't allowed to hold class because they couldn't keep the building at least 50F / 10c. And then when you go to university, you have to walk around in that weather all the time. It was miserable.

When I moved to sf I used to snicker at the people you see wearing leather coats and scarves because it's 45F out. Now I do the same :( No winter for no summer is a great trade.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #5

One reason to live in the Valley is the opportunity to exercise outdoors in shorts and a t-shirt 365 days a year. That's why I want to move out there, anyway. Winter is highly overrated.

I'm from Canada so I know exactly what you mean. The one benefit of freezing winters is that you can get six solid months of productivity while locked inside.

Contrary, I find my productivity increases with warm weather given the freedom to move around with ease (walking to a coffeeshop or waiting for a train/bus). Not to mention health benefits of things like vitamin D.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #8

I saw the talk, and felt his point was hypocritical. He said that FB couldn't have made it outside of the valley, but that knowing what he knows now, it probably could were he starting it today. In other words, he needed the valley when he was young and inexperienced, but it's not necessary if you have the experience and connections already. [Edit: The reason I'm saying it's hypocritical is because his point was init…

I don't think his point was hypocritical, just a bit illogical. He realized he'd contradicted himself right at the same time he and Jessica both realized he'd said something mildly insulting about the valley, which was a bit awkward. Jessica tried to make a joke (by saying that the press would have a field day with the comment) and Zuck bore down and restated his comment, in the process inadvertently de-emphasizing the original comment's counter-factual nature.

His point was that the valley was critical to FB's success, but that if he were starting a new company today he'd do it in Boston b/c he no longer needs what the valley has to offer and his perception is that in Boston long term value is preferred over short term exits.

I think Zuck's answer started out as a clever non-answer intended to communicate his appreciation of building long term value... probably 100% on message for Facebook's current growth strategy... but went slightly awry.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #2

It's probably the most damning and valid critique of The Valley. How many Twitters/Facebooks/Dropboxes/Airbnbs don't exist because the founders sold them for $15M in 18 months? Sometimes it's because the founders aren't really passionate enough about what they're working on. Other times it's just financially insane to say no. A great example is Mint.com. How do you tell Aaron Patzer not to sell, when he's going to ma…

It didn't seem to me that he was complaining about founders selling companies quickly so much as employees flitting from one to the other so fast.

In my experience, founders in the Valley are more likely to have the confidence to turn down acquisition offers than founders outside it. All the examples you list are Valley startups.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing the reason you are being downvoted is because "the girl" is Jessica Livingston, a partner at YC, who has earned a lot of respect here on HN. I agree that Zuck seemed unprepared and rambled, frequently forgetting what he was talking about, but that's not something the host can control.

Also, typically "girl," like "boy," refers to a child. Ms. Livingston is obviously an adult, so to many people the term "girl" comes across as belittling.

The correct term would be "the lady" or even better, "the interviewer".

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #5

One reason to live in the Valley is the opportunity to exercise outdoors in shorts and a t-shirt 365 days a year. That's why I want to move out there, anyway. Winter is highly overrated.

After dark in SF it gets pretty cold... a t-shirt may work if you're going for a very hard run, but I'd recommend a hoodie just in case.

Re: Zuckerberg: If I Were Starting A Company Now, I Would Have Stayed In Boston

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post #3

His Q&A at Startup School was not so good as the rest of the speakers that were invited. The girl that was making the questions was not so good at it either. There was no consistency about what he wanted to say. Many times he lost his own trail of thought. Maybe you need such an article to extract some meaning out of everything he talked. [EDIT] Well, someone doesn't like that I speak up my mind. So I can't make an o…

Let me help you out here to end your confusion as to who 'the girl' is: http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jl Nice way to make someone smile though, even if it was not intentional.

Doesn't matter who she is. That was my impression from watching her interview Mark. I really don't care if she's one of the founders of YC, or just another woman. I'm talking about that interview.
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