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Diet Coke probably isn't a cognitive performance enhancer

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Re: Diet Coke probably isn't a cognitive performance enhancer

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Post by echelon »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #39
echelon wrote: post #11

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What a domain name. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that.

Let me check my spam folder - yeah, there are tons of phishing attempts with unusual combinations of hyphens, no hyphens, and company/inc/group that have similar amounts of legitimacy. A domain of coca-colacompany.com doesn't seem that unusual. Oh, you mean the #:~:text= URI fragment - yeah, that is weird! I wonder what the function of the :~ emoji is in their CMS. I know from painful experience that XML names can be…

Great info on the fragment, but I was calling out the domain name for being "mixed kebab case". The half hyphenation is correct, but jarring.

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Post by birdemic »

dankai wrote: post #102

Contrary to most opinions here, I lost weight through Diet Coke and diet drinks and kept it down thanks to it. These sodas (or rather the artificial sweeteners) allowed me to cut out sugar totally out of my diet at age 16 where I weighed 250 lbs at my highest, to 140 lbs at my lowest at age 21. Now I'm 30 years old at a healthy 160 lbs. I never worked out (still hate it) and only achieved this thanks to the dietary c…

My story is pretty much identical, although some of the numbers are a bit different.

At 22 I was a massive 95 kg (210 lbs). I drank about 2 L of cola every day and decided commit myself to a "don't drink calories rule," and switched from regular Coke/Pepsi to Coke Zero/Pepsi Max. I made no other changes to my lifestyle and after 6-7 months was down to a non-overweight 70 kg (155 lbs).

16 years later (yikes!), I still drink too much soda: about 1-1.5 L of diet soda and about 1 L of water. I currently weigh 75 kg, but I think the extra mass comes from much more regular exercise.

I don't have any particular health issues, whatsoever, but after a few decades of daily soda abuse, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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Post by gloryjulio »

hinkley wrote: post #52
tppiotrowski wrote: post #38

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Am I the only one that experiences sugar as a depressant? Eating high glycemic index foods makes me lethargic and sleepy. I've never experienced a "sugar high". I also don't have diabetes as my blood sugar level is within norm during routine physicals.

There's a theory out there that since your intestines have 'taste buds' for sugar, that eating artificial sweetener ends up increasing your body's ability to scavenge sugars from your digestive tract. It's one of the working theories for a causative link between obesity and consumption of diet soda. Which is usually swamped by the correlative link between the two.

I'm curious about this theory. Do you mean by eating the same amount of food, artificial sweetener makes your body more efficient and increases your food utilization rate? For example instead of 80% of calorie now 90% of food is being used by the body? Looks like a good way to save food, you can just eat less for more.

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Post by popcube »

culi wrote: post #107
shadowofneptune wrote: post #91

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What would be the something else? There are occasional studies that may indicate health risks associated with diet soda, but as best as I can tell they are not really conclusive. The health issues with consuming large amounts of refined sugar on the other hand are concrete and very well documented. Dental caries, increased likelihood of developing diabetes mellitus, etc.

It's true that refined sugar has been very clearly proven to be associated with terrible consequences to your health. But most of the sugar substitutes used in "diet" products simply don't have those warnings because they're just newer and less studied. But there's been a lot of recent research showing just how bad these artificial sweeteners can be even in small amounts. Some studies have even shown long-lasting and…

what is wrong here? your citation looks ok and new... get down vote

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Post by m463 »

gigaflop wrote: post #113
m463 wrote: post #103

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IHMO you are confusing product marketing with good health advice. Marketing is just a legal way to tell only the good side of a story. "low-fat" usually means sugar. "sugar free" usually means artificial sweeteners (or something made without sugar anyway). Even "no added sugar" is suspect. What I've found hilarious is the new "KETO!" marketing craze. I really suspect that most of these products will not induce or mai…

A ketogenic diet is ultra-low-carb, to the point where your body enters ketosis, and becomes much more amenable to burning your fat reserves for energy. Essentially, keto-friendly means very low carb/sugar.

But if you go to costco, and browse the "keto" section, I have doubts that the products (mostly dessert/snack products) are really keto-friendly.

"keto crackers", "keto bombs", "keto clusters", "mini cookies", "keto cups", etc...

I suspect they must be sharply constrained in serving size

Re: Diet Coke probably isn't a cognitive performance enhancer

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Post by auspex »

dankai wrote: post #102

Contrary to most opinions here, I lost weight through Diet Coke and diet drinks and kept it down thanks to it. These sodas (or rather the artificial sweeteners) allowed me to cut out sugar totally out of my diet at age 16 where I weighed 250 lbs at my highest, to 140 lbs at my lowest at age 21. Now I'm 30 years old at a healthy 160 lbs. I never worked out (still hate it) and only achieved this thanks to the dietary c…

If you hate exercising you might try focusing on something else and use it as a way to get better.

Like I want to shoot in the 80s in golf, run a 7 minute mile or whatever. It helped me find a love for it because it was a way to “train for my goal” rather than an everyday slog.

After about 4 weeks I started to look forward to it and really went down a rabbit hole optimizing workouts, sleep and food.

It can be really fun!

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Post by uf00lme »

bradlys wrote: post #125
amelius wrote: post #57

I found out that when I stop drinking Diet Coke, I get depression symptoms. (Reproduced three times now). It must have something to do with the aspartame in it. When I take DLPA pills (a breakdown product of aspartame), the depression goes away quite fast. Drinking a can or two of Diet Coke also does the trick.

Try caffeine free and see if it persists. I drink caffeine free. I’ll be going on a multi month purge from it though. Water only for a few months. It’ll be brutal especially because I have high standards for water. (And most water tastes terrible)

I’m not sure all the attention on caffeine vs caffeine free is deserved, I suspect that a ton of other chemicals are involved. It took me months to get over drinking diet sodas with a ton of withdrawal symptoms along the way, but it was worth it - addiction is terrible.

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Post by afarviral »

cryptoanon wrote: post #123
tppiotrowski wrote: post #38

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Am I the only one that experiences sugar as a depressant? Eating high glycemic index foods makes me lethargic and sleepy. I've never experienced a "sugar high". I also don't have diabetes as my blood sugar level is within norm during routine physicals.

Do you have ADHD? That's the typical reaction to stimulants.

I wonder if Im the only person who is triggered by this widespread over-simplification? Relaxed and focussed is not drowsy. Also totally within the normal spectrum of amphetamine effects for anyone, regardless of diagnosis. I always see people parroting this idea. Oh you have ADD so _those drugs_ just make you sleepy yeah? Id be bouncing off the walls, they'd say.
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