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Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by oluwie »

porcoda wrote: post #17

Finally! I don't care if it's apple or someone else, but the "no blackouts" thing is big. Nothing drives me more crazy than being unable to stream a game because I happen to live in the same geographic region as the team home field. This would finally motivate me to cancel the cable TV subscription - the only sport I watch is soccer, and the only reason I keep the cable TV is so I can dig out the remote whenever the…

It's s bit annoying and prob some extra money but i get around this with a VPN service.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by freck »

sjm-lbm wrote: post #138
freck wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume this is something MLS wanted out of the deal and Apple conceded. It makes the season tickets even more valuable for every team in the league. Do you really think Apple demanded a subscription give-away?

I'm not assuming Apple demanded it, I'm just wondering aloud why Apple conceded. This deal is 8x the 2022 MLS TV deal annually, and the current deal doesn't have anything like this. It seems insane to me to imagine MLS telling Apple "8x our current deal and you have to give it to our biggest fans for free." Who knows, maybe that's what happened, though.

Fair enough. But MLS viewership has risen since the last deal. Before this announcement, it was speculated MLS was looking for a $300M/year deal. So it doesn't seem so insane to me.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by tamersalama »

Every soccer league is on a different provider. I'm in Canada. The Premier League is on DAZN. MLS is on Apple TV. La Liga is on fuboTV (or Amazon Prime). It's all the same sport. Multiply that by X if another family member is interested another sport. I don't know what the future holds, but the sports entertainment fragmentation might be hurting more than helping. Perhaps Apple is on their way to consolidate.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by elpool2 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #95
JamesSwift wrote: post #66

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I just dont see MLS "blowing up". Will it be more popular than today? Possibly, though I feel like its been given several chances to catch on and never has. Will it challenge NFL / NBA popularity in any way? IMO, absolutely not.

Engagement with MLS is somewhere close to zero. Back when I was involved in coaching youth soccer I found the other coaches had never heard of the New England Revolution, New York Red Bulls, L.A. Galaxy, etc. These folks were fans of man united but had no interest at all in US soccer. Who knows? Maybe not having lockouts will mean that if some team starts playing well people will be able to watch it. MLS definitely n…

Depends on where you are I think. At my kids soccer games I see lots of coaches and dads wearing Sounders gear.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by kernal »

avgDev wrote: post #26

This is probably one of the best decision by any TV provider. MLS is going to blow up in the coming years. There is a lot of talk about US national team being very competitive in 2026 World Cup. MLS has produced stars already, like Alphonso Davies. Once the hype gets higher and more money start being spent on soccer in the US, it will become a power house.

>MLS is going to blow up in the coming years.

MLS is a distant 4th or 5th sport in the North America and I don't see that ever changing. European soccer (Premier League, La Liga, Serie A) will always be the pinnacle of soccer in the world. People want to watch the best teams and best players and MLS doesn't compare to the caliber of European soccer and never will.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by olyjohn »

al_borland wrote: post #110
tablespoon wrote: post #103

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> I always thought that was silly. Games sell out, that doesn’t mean local fans still don’t want to watch. Do they still do blackouts if the game sells out? I'm not a sports fan, but I thought games would only get blacked out if they didn't sell enough in-person tickets.

Not sure on that. I just remember living about a mile from a large college stadium that always sells out. I tried to watch the game on TV and got denied. This was a while back, I'm not a huge sports fan, but that stuck with me and made me not want to bother trying to watch any future games.

The fact that the game is local, makes it more interesting to me to watch on TV. I'm not a big sports fan, I am highly unlikely to ever go to a game... but they might get my viewership on a live stream, just to see what's going on near by, or to have a get together at my house and have a game on.

But my experience pretty much mirrors yours. Any time I might be interested in seeing a game, it's been blacked out on TV. So I never bothered to watch anything else. Why would I give a shit about a team not even near me if I'm not a huge fan to begin with?

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by jonahhorowitz »

oluwie wrote: post #151
porcoda wrote: post #17

Finally! I don't care if it's apple or someone else, but the "no blackouts" thing is big. Nothing drives me more crazy than being unable to stream a game because I happen to live in the same geographic region as the team home field. This would finally motivate me to cancel the cable TV subscription - the only sport I watch is soccer, and the only reason I keep the cable TV is so I can dig out the remote whenever the…

It's s bit annoying and prob some extra money but i get around this with a VPN service.

Not sure about MLS, but the MLB is extremely aggressive at blocking most VPN providers.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by syntaxfree »

noirbot wrote: post #145
PaulHoule wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Engagement with MLS is somewhere close to zero. Back when I was involved in coaching youth soccer I found the other coaches had never heard of the New England Revolution, New York Red Bulls, L.A. Galaxy, etc. These folks were fans of man united but had no interest at all in US soccer. Who knows? Maybe not having lockouts will mean that if some team starts playing well people will be able to watch it. MLS definitely n…

My guess is that those are actually the teams you're least likely to have a lot of fans of. LA, NYC, and Boston all already have massive and influential sports teams. The folks likely to want to watch/know about MLS are in the cities that don't - Kansas City, Austin, to a lesser extent Atlanta or Portland. MLS is being fairly smart with its expansion and focusing on cities where they're not trying to pull fans away f…

> not trying to pull fans away from the NY Yankees

In this thread we’ve learned there’s a New York Red Bulls and a New York Football Club.

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