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Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Genuine question: At what point do we actually declare that we are in recession. Do we wait for GDP figures out these signs are enough to assume we are in bear markets now.

I think the actual rule is 2 quarters of GDP decline in a row. We had one, seems like we'll have another.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Would this be the Coinbase whose CEO just spent $133 million on a home? https://www.ibtimes.com/inside-coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrongs... Capitalism is a harsh mistress.

You'll be happy to learn that no one is confiscating the private assets of those who have been laid off.

Also, its $133M, but let's be honest it's really like $110M for the land and then a $20M mansion on it.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing wrong with people collectively giving someone money.

With the context of what wealth inequality is doing to society and what political power raw money brings to people, I posit there is a line where it is wrong.

If 1 million people want to give 1 person 10 dollars, and your response is "we should control how those 1 million spend their 10 dollars", and not "we should prevent politicians from selling their influence", then you're hurting the people you want to help.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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I think if employees feel slighted by being fired, they're fooling themselves. The best mindset is that you could be gone tomorrow. It gives you clarity and purpose. It also happens to be the truth. Coinbase was also extremely generous with severance. 12 weeks plus two for every one year at the company, I think. I've had the experience of being let go without notice and without severance. Devs seem a little more griz…

> The best mindset is that you could be gone tomorrow. It gives you clarity and purpose.

Probably the best advice you can give someone in the tech industry. Even when I'm happy and content in a position, I'm still constantly looking and interviewing.

I got burned pretty bad at two startups in a row where the founders were pitching rainbows and unicorns and one company just went bust and I showed up one day and they sent everybody home - no severance, no reference, nothing. The other scenario, one of the founders fled the country with the money and left everybody high and dry.

Both were eye opening enough where now I have multiple backup plans, I network like crazy, I listen to what people are saying, I watch and see who's leaving the company. If you see higher executives leaving en masse, its a lot different then a few low level sales people. In both of the above situations, I missed a lot of red flags I would've caught today.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

#75

Being an employee in a high risk field like crypto is a tough business. You are everyday one day away from a massive market crash or crypto heist to be let go. (Yes, conventional companies too, but not to this extent)

On the other hand they could've been growing much more modestly, and then there wouldn't be any layoffs. Not much different to other IPOing companies, many are doing layoffs now. Crypto has little to do with it.

People were gainfully employed during that period, and are receiving generous severance by any measure. The alternative is that those people aren’t employed at all, or working in another job that might be just as risky. Crypto has a lot to do with it: The industry itself is known for its volatility, so there’s some expectation that they took up the role with an understanding of the risks to those tenure.

This isn’t a McDonald’s or Walmart hiring unskilled labour at low rates, knowing full well that people are replaceable.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep pointing to Armstrong's $110M house like it's some sort of injustice. If you think billionaires should exist at all, then that's one of the least-bad injustices imaginable Ok, I'll admit it, billionaires should not exist at all, there should be a heavy wealth tax that makes it hard to become a billionaire. Will a CEO work less hard if he (and his peers) can only ever gain $100M in net worth before a wealt…

There are plenty of people in the world who would think that anything over $500/month is way more than enough for one person. Should your compensation be reduced to that amount? Does someone earning more than you hurt you? Also… do billionaires employ people? Do you want their employees to have their jobs seized from them when the johny555 tax goes into effect?

You can put a wealth tax on billionaires without putting taxes on poverty level workers ($500/month in the US).

You're making bizarre nonsensical arguments here--slippery slope, strawman, etc.

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep pointing to Armstrong's $110M house like it's some sort of injustice. If you think billionaires should exist at all, then that's one of the least-bad injustices imaginable Ok, I'll admit it, billionaires should not exist at all, there should be a heavy wealth tax that makes it hard to become a billionaire. Will a CEO work less hard if he (and his peers) can only ever gain $100M in net worth before a wealt…

> Will a CEO work less hard if he (and his peers) can only ever gain $100M in net worth before a wealth tax on assets kicks in? He'll certainly work a lot less hard after the wealth tax kicks in.

Shit, I'd immediately retire

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep pointing to Armstrong's $110M house like it's some sort of injustice. If you think billionaires should exist at all, then that's one of the least-bad injustices imaginable Ok, I'll admit it, billionaires should not exist at all, there should be a heavy wealth tax that makes it hard to become a billionaire. Will a CEO work less hard if he (and his peers) can only ever gain $100M in net worth before a wealt…

I'm just a run of the mill average joe, who has a rock that has been in my family for generations. Turns out some weird little cult likes my rock and wants to buy it for $1B. Should I be forced to sell my rock, because I'm getting a $500M tax bill from the government because some weird little cult said they would pay $1B for it - regardless of whether I want to sell my rock?

Why is the rock yours? How did your family attain ownership of it? If the rock means little to you, why should you have it rather than the cult that actually values it? What if the cult wants to preserve the rock but you want to destroy it even though that will cause great pain to those who care about it? Why should you have permanent ownership of a rock just because your parents had it?

Re: Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep pointing to Armstrong's $110M house like it's some sort of injustice. If you think billionaires should exist at all, then that's one of the least-bad injustices imaginable Ok, I'll admit it, billionaires should not exist at all, there should be a heavy wealth tax that makes it hard to become a billionaire. Will a CEO work less hard if he (and his peers) can only ever gain $100M in net worth before a wealt…

I'm just a run of the mill average joe, who has a rock that has been in my family for generations. Turns out some weird little cult likes my rock and wants to buy it for $1B. Should I be forced to sell my rock, because I'm getting a $500M tax bill from the government because some weird little cult said they would pay $1B for it - regardless of whether I want to sell my rock?

This strawman parable is so elegant in its contrivance that it deserves a Nebula Award.
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