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Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by thaway2839 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #42
rsweeney21 wrote: post #30

"From early 2023 through 2032, fans can get every live MLS match by subscribing to a new MLS streaming service, available exclusively through the Apple TV app." So the only way to watch MLS games is by subscribing to the MLS streaming service? Am I reading this right? What do I get for my subscription during the off-season? How do you attract new MLS fans?

ESPN had a more in depth article outlining the deal: Speaking to Sports Illustrated on Tuesday, MLS commissioner Don Garber emphasized that the commitment isn’t a traditional broadcast arrangement, wherein a league exchanges the rights to its games and content for a negotiated rate. Rather, MLS and Apple have entered a partnership where each is incentivized to grow the business. Garber declined to reveal the economic…

I hope the Apple production isn't like the MLB one.

The MLB production is crap. They really need to stop making it look like an Apple product.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by jdminhbg »

dismantlethesun wrote: post #64
throwaway12245 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

U.S. Soccer is a joke : that goes for international and MLS. Top U.S. club is ranked 122 in the world : https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/glob... U.S. got beat by some central american club and did not qualify for world cup last time. MLS is a rigged league. Purported local "ownership" is a ruse. MLS management decides who wins championship. Real U.S. soccer fans follow top European leagues and…

> U.S. Soccer is a joke So what? People seem to enjoy the comedy club that is US soccer. That's all that matters for Apple which is trying to serve its home country and largest market: the US. I'm sure after some time, if this is successful, they would expand to leagues from Latin America, then finally Europe.

Is there a reason you posted this from two different accounts?

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by sjm-lbm »

jdminhbg wrote: post #54
sjm-lbm wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to guess, but based on this press release guessing is all that we can do, so.. The UI for sports is currently terrible, by and large. The best you can do - despite the fact that everyone has a computer attached to and/or in their TV these days - is stream a linear broadcast channel. With this deal, Apple can show you a dashboard of all the games currently playing so you can pick a close and/or intresting on…

Apple obviously does not like to preannounce products, but with a ten-year time horizon, some form of AR/VR has to be in their plans as well.

Funny you mention that - one of the odder parts of this press release is the fact that this service is going to be included with MLS team season ticket packages. I'd been try to figure out how and/or why it's in Apple's interest to give away this service to season ticket holders; some sort of AR tech being part of the overall plans is a decent guess as to why.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by jandrewrogers »

eschulz wrote: post #31
avgDev wrote: post #26

This is probably one of the best decision by any TV provider. MLS is going to blow up in the coming years. There is a lot of talk about US national team being very competitive in 2026 World Cup. MLS has produced stars already, like Alphonso Davies. Once the hype gets higher and more money start being spent on soccer in the US, it will become a power house.

MLS is also a good place to see some of Europe's biggest stars play in the final years of their careers. I've always thought a league full of almost-retired legends was a good way to get some publicity.

The best teams in MLS typically don't have any retired legends. This is a gimmick more commonly associated with not-so-good teams. Most good MLS teams are heavy with South American talent in their prime and, increasingly, products of their own academies.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by jdminhbg »

An additional detail for those wondering about Apple’s sports plans, is that all MLS games will be on Wednesday and Saturday nights[0]. Those are not coincidentally two nights that the NFL does not play on.

0: https://twitter.com/pkedit/status/1536751488420065280

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by dionidium »

I stream my hometown's hockey and baseball games, because I don't have a choice (I no longer live in the region), but it's a second-rate experience for one fundamental reason: buffering delays.

I routinely get messages in my group chat that are a reaction to something that hasn't yet happened on my screen. The group chat makes for fun communal viewing, so I don't want to leave it, but these messages undermine the experience.

I watch sports OTA whenever I can and if I lived in my hometown there's no doubt I'd choose to watch my local teams on cable. Live sports moving to streaming services is an unfortunate trend.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by lotsofpulp »

colinmhayes wrote: post #29
afavour wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "Chromecast with Google TV" excludes older Chromecast devices. Not that I really blame Apple here, I've played around with Chromecasts a few times and they're wildly underpowered even if they are ubiquitous.

The appleTV remote couldn't change the volume on my tv for whatever reason. Since I bought a dumb monitor style TV the only option was to walk up to it and use the buttons. Switched to chromecast and the volume controls worked. Hard for me to imagine going back to apple, even if the chromecast is a tad slower.

> The appleTV remote couldn't change the volume on my tv for whatever reason

Because your TV did not support HDMI CEC.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by clairity »

throwaway12245 wrote: post #43
avgDev wrote: post #26

This is probably one of the best decision by any TV provider. MLS is going to blow up in the coming years. There is a lot of talk about US national team being very competitive in 2026 World Cup. MLS has produced stars already, like Alphonso Davies. Once the hype gets higher and more money start being spent on soccer in the US, it will become a power house.

U.S. Soccer is a joke : that goes for international and MLS. Top U.S. club is ranked 122 in the world : https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/glob... U.S. got beat by some central american club and did not qualify for world cup last time. MLS is a rigged league. Purported local "ownership" is a ruse. MLS management decides who wins championship. Real U.S. soccer fans follow top European leagues and…

the problem with soccer and rankings is that it suffers from wholly inadequate sample sizes, or alternatively, goals are too "big", encompassing and compacting too much information, to be used for dissecting quality. soccer rankings can't give you much indication of relative ability, as chance overwhelms quality in rankings.

that's one of the strengths of basketball (and other sports to varying degrees), both as a sport and as entertainment. games are won and lost on many samples that each count a small fraction toward the outcome. any single game's outcome can still be swayed by chance, but that's very unlikely for a series of games, upon which rankings are based.

Re: Apple and MLS to present all MLS matches for 10 years, beginning in 2023

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Post by lotsofpulp »

remarkEon wrote: post #6

I would love to go back in time and tell my grandfather in the 1980s, who despite his age was pretty enamored with technology, that all of this newfangled stuff would actually make it more difficult for him to watch sports. You get cool and sleek looking "set top" devices, but oh sorry there's a labyrinth of "streaming" subscriptions you have to navigate to figure out how to watch your games. At some point, this kind…

None of your complaints have to do with technology. No one is stopping NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL/MLS/US Tennis/etc from adding a button on their website or app that lets you pay and watch a game.

The thing stopping you from watching it easily is those organizations preferring to outsource broadcasting and ad sales to other media sellers who demand exclusivity terms that make it harder for you to watch.

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