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Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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This would suggest the only winning move is not to play. Aside from this, I haven't used Social Media/ Online Dating in about 5 years. For example, if someone posts something like "Where can I find an apartment in LA , my income is only 35k a year". And I respond with " Your not going to make it here, you should move somewhere cheaper." That can be interupted as an insult. On the other end of the spectrum, back when…

Agreed, let the platforms face fines and regulation, not jail the end users. Although some online bullying is much more blatant than your example.

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Results this are why I vigorously defend even the outer fringes of free speech. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

That link has already sailed. Libel and slander are already illegal speech, as is inciting violence, as is yelling “fire” in a crowded theater, as is saying curse words on broadcast TV and radio.

> as is yelling “fire” in a crowded theater

A popular term from a decision that was overturned by the Supreme Court decades ago.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-tim...

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is 'hate speech'?

I am not too certain. But here are some examples (NSFW). https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbols/search Looks like they involve discrimination (on race or religion or such). But Japan's new law is more general.

No, if you're making a law, you need to strictly define it. Otherwise we will create another fuzzy law that can be interpreted any way the judge sees.

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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This law has good intentions but will be used to imprison political rivals and online gamers. The first link in the chain is forged, captain, get ready for a wild ride.

Wait why would they go specifically after gamers?

Because the big media and tech companies hate computers that don't obey them.

Microsoft, ibm, hp, intel and the like have been working on removing software ownership from the public purposely. They want a future where all bytes and instructions are encrypted.

From 1960's to roughly the early 2000's, all computers you bought ran local software exe's in plain text , aka you could open up the .exe, .com or .dll file and reverse engineer it and restore missing functions to get older software running on newer systems.

Valve, ms and the rest have been attacking us owning our own shit for over 2 decades now and they are trying to criminalize owning a general computer.

MMO's were rebranded PC rpg's, so that the game industry could steal pc games and not give us the complete files for the game we were paying for to prevent piracy but they really want monopoly profits.

You can find countless games who had their multiplayer networking code ripped out so game companies could disable their games remotely, that can't happen with gmaes in the 90's (quake, warcraft 1-3, starcraft 1 and diablo 1-2) because they were local applications. You got all the files and code to run the entire game locally.

They want to take us back to vendor locked devices of the 60's with IBM mainsframe, the internet is one giant Personal planet sized computer toa software company and our old non hardware drm'd pc's are malfunctioning chips in their desire for monopoly profits.

https://games.slashdot.org/story/22/03/25/0457243/owners-of-...

What microsoft+ big media companies want the future to be:

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Piracy is just a scapegoat the corproate world is mass dispossessing the stupid and ignoring mmo/drm loving masses.

https://torrentfreak.com/esa-reports-game-piracy-file-hostin...

These "pirate" claims are just pro corporate propaganda, they want to eliminate software ownership.

https://torrentfreak.com/major-persistent-video-game-pirates...

Then see down here where tifca (intel, microsoft and the rest) is them cheering the public being so stupid.

AKA they know they got it in the bag from the days of ultima online and everquest in 1999, then we got steam in 2003, all those "software as a service" apps are 100% proof our species are idiots. None of these programs need to be split into two exe's and run over a network, so we're losing our privacy and control of our pc's and computing devices.

So the army of lobbyists is being paid big money to ban regular pc's as they lock down the internet with new 'trusted' hardware that hardware companies in co-operating with intel and microsoft have been working on for over 20 years.

https://web2.qatar.cmu.edu/cs/15349/dl/DRM-TC.pdf

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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I am surprised how much less discussion takes place about cyberbullying and the deaths caused by it. I agree with freedom of speech but if it violates someones right to exist then shouldn't the culprits be punished? If not punished atleast have a legal process to discuss/debate it in the court of law? Thoughts?

I am in agreement. Speech can cause harm, and like all things that can be used to cause harm to another person, should have safe-guards in place to prevent that harm.

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait why would they go specifically after gamers?

Because gamers are the most oppressed minority.

Note to myself: Remember to tick underrepresented minority on job aplications.

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

#68

I am surprised how much less discussion takes place about cyberbullying and the deaths caused by it. I agree with freedom of speech but if it violates someones right to exist then shouldn't the culprits be punished? If not punished atleast have a legal process to discuss/debate it in the court of law? Thoughts?

People dying is a small price to pay for free speech.

Of course, if everyone died and the last person was able to speak freely, it would be worth it.

Everything else is trading safety for liberty.

Slippery slopes of free speech crackdowns inevitably lead to loss of liberty.

Leave if you don't like it.

Absolutism in free speech is the only justifiable position.

Welcome to debate.

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Results this are why I vigorously defend even the outer fringes of free speech. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

Is there any practical evidence of this slippery slope? Here in Canada hate speech, defamation, and obscenity have been illegal for a while. The idea is that you have freedom of expression, but it only extends as far as it doesn't infringe on another person's entitlement to a life free from discrimination & harassment. I don't feel like this has been a slippery slope for us, only a different place to draw the lines b…

The problem with successfully silencing people is that you tend not to hear about it. Still, some examples can be found[0]. Take one where France used their hate speech laws to ban dissent from their foreign policy:

>In 2015, France’s highest court upheld the criminal conviction of 12 pro-Palestinian activists for violating restrictions against hate speech. Their crime? Wearing T-shirts that advocated a boycott of Israel — “Long live Palestine, boycott Israel,” the shirts read — which, the court ruled, violated French law that “prescribes imprisonment or a fine of up to $50,000 for parties that ‘provoke discrimination, hatred or violence toward a person or group of people on grounds of their origin, their belonging or their not belonging to an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a certain religion.'”

Or in the United Kingdom,

>In 2010, a militant atheist was given a six-month suspended sentence for leaving anti-Christian and anti-Islam fliers in a religious room of the Liverpool airport; according to the BBC, “jurors found him guilty of causing religiously aggravated intentional harassment.”

[0] https://theintercept.com/2017/08/29/in-europe-hate-speech-la...

Re: Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment for cyberbullying

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Results this are why I vigorously defend even the outer fringes of free speech. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

That link has already sailed. Libel and slander are already illegal speech, as is inciting violence, as is yelling “fire” in a crowded theater, as is saying curse words on broadcast TV and radio.

It's telling that people are swarming to point out the 1 'technically incorrect' entry in this list, whilst completely ignoring all the others.
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