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You mean compliant, not complacent?
Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
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Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
"People who are diagnosed with ADHD at a younger age likely have parents who just don't want / know how to deal with issues." Once you have a child with ADHD, or if you are someone with ADHD, you will understand just how wrong you are. Until then, enjoy your bliss.
I formed this opinion from knowing many and seeing the way they are being / were raised. There's quite a bit of evidence to support this btw (outside of my observations).
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1471-2431-12-50
> Approximately 10% of the sample was classified as having ADHD. We found depression, anxiety, healthcare coverage, and male sex of child to have increased odds of being diagnosed with ADHD. One of the salient features of this study was observing a significant association between ADHD and variables such as TV usage, participation in sports, two-parent family structure, and family members’ smoking status. Obesity was not found to be significantly associated with ADHD, contrary to some previous studies.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221133551...
> Youth with ADD/ADHD engaged in screen time with an average of 149.1 min/weekday and 59% had a TV in their bedroom. Adjusting for child and family characteristics, having a TV in the bedroom was associated with 25 minute higher daily screen time (95% CI: 12.8–37.4 min/day). A bedroom TV was associated with 32% higher odds of engaging in screen time for over 2 h/day (OR = 1.3; 95% CI: 1.0–1.7).
https://journals.lww.com/jrnldbp/Abstract/2018/04000/Sleepin...
> A shorter sleep duration and less time spent in cognitively stimulating activities were associated with an increased risk of developing ADHD symptoms and behavior problems.
There's plenty more, but the gist is pretty clear. Get your kids outside, give them a supportive and safe environment, teach them how to behave like adults, give them plenty of sleep, and provide them plenty of opportunities to learn. All those reduce risk of depression and ADHD (hence the correlation above).
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#43This study focused specifically on methylphenidate, one of many medications prescribed for ADHD. The title should be adjusted accordingly, as the current title is ambiguous and potentially misleading.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
As the parent of a child with ADHD that is medicated, it seems completely plausible that it could cause depression. When my kid has had too high a dosage (or accidentally takes a double dose) she's like a zombie, completely flat affect, and very little motivation. It's like it drains her life away.
Part of the problem is that it's very difficult to get the right dosage for any given day because diet, metabolism, and hormones seem to have a big impact on how effective it is. We've found it's better to go with a lower-dose extended release, and then let her self-medicate with 5mg regular tablets as needed. This works great now because she's a fairly responsible teenager (when medicated), but it was really hard when she was younger.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
As the parent of a child with ADHD that is medicated, it seems completely plausible that it could cause depression. When my kid has had too high a dosage (or accidentally takes a double dose) she's like a zombie, completely flat affect, and very little motivation. It's like it drains her life away. Part of the problem is that it's very difficult to get the right dosage for any given day because diet, metabolism, and…
What is she taking?
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#45FWIW, ADHD increases the risk of depression too. Executive Function Disorder creates a lot of internal thoughts of "I'm a loser" "I'll never be able to succeed", and so forth. Though, being fair, those are thoughts other people will direct at those with ADHD as well.
> "I'll never be able to succeed"
Is it the condition which causes this, or the diagnosis of the condition? I think diagnoses can easily inspire feelings of futility. It's no longer something you can change about yourself by wanting to change, it becomes a medical condition you've been stuck with.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
This is a very, very, very uninformed take. Please inform yourself.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014976342...
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#47I'm not a doctor, but as a family member and extended family member, I know that many bipolar children appear with ADHD in their early years and are treated with ADHD medication. They are treated with stimulants that have no effect on bipolar disorder.
Back when I was diagnosed with Bi-Polar disorder (I actually had ADHD and a touch of autism, but whatever), they put me on Lithium.
I'd rather be on a small methamphetamine dose than Lithium if I got to choose my misdiagnosis.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#48In case people don’t know yet, doctors in some sense have an imperative to prescribe medication, regardless of whether it will destroy someone’s life. It’s almost considered mal practice not to prescribe SSRIs to a depressed person. But that prescription may follow them for life, most never get off them. Or don’t even know who they are when they get older, was that drugged person them or someone else?
doctors practice "medicine" not "health" :)
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
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This is a mass-media trope. It's as reality-based as a complaint that "It's horrifying that so many hackers are allowed to just walk into Pentagon's network with their visual-basic 3D IP viruses".
The reality is that ADHD can cause all kinds of problems with making decisions, planning, perception of time, staying focused on a chosen task, emotional regulation, and sleep. School just happens to be the first place where these difficulties become apparent, but this can be a struggle in all areas of life, and not everything can be helped with environmental accommodations.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
You clearly don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
I have a child clinically diagnosed with ADHD. It’s absolutely nothing to do with time spent with him. We have stable family home, active life style. etc
He just has a brain that works differently. Not worse. Different. He might struggle to pay attention at school but he’s written two novels!
PS. Religion is horse shit so if that’s the only other thing you have left for me to help him, I’ll take my chances, thanks