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Complacent. Aight. I actually got /feistier/ when I started ADHD meds at 33, because I finally felt confident enough in my brain's function to start actually voicing my opinions to my peers. But go off, I guess.
Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
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Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
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The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
So it feels to me that you're saying ADHD doesn't exist and it's a matter of parental failure or indifference. Do I have that right?
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The brain chemistry altering controlled substances aren't necessarily the problem in my eyes. It's the lack of focus and individuality. School is a system that's supposed to help set people up for life as fellow citizens. If solution A doesn't work then one would hope that they would have the bandwidth to try solution B.
It does feel like there's a lot of "hey that's weird, this one person isn't like everyone else, maybe we should try pumping some drugs into them" going on. Perhaps we could explore the problem space a bit before reaching that conclusion. Of course that sounds like it could take a lot of work and involve understanding the problems on an individual basis. Standard cocktail of drugs, however has an industrial, assembly line feel to it. Why figure anything out when we can just find a way to make the problem go away.
Although, for those who really do need brain chemistry alterations to function, I'm glad we have something that we can actually do to help them. I just wish that the approach would be to actually assist the individual instead of only assisting the assembly line student output. It seems like I only hear about the later, but of course perhaps that makes sense because a story about the former doesn't have very good memetic fitness.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
Bringing them to the gym, to the park, playing in the backyard; it's a lot of work.
I agree with your point but as I’m wrapping up raising my own children I’m coming to the conclusion that I made it a lot harder in myself. Driving them to a million activities, even driving them to playgrounds several times per week, Home Depot kids workshops and so much more.
Sometimes I think a better thing would’ve been to simply say, “Go play outside.”
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
"People who are diagnosed with ADHD at a younger age likely have parents who just don't want / know how to deal with issues."
Once you have a child with ADHD, or if you are someone with ADHD, you will understand just how wrong you are. Until then, enjoy your bliss.
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#26I'm not a doctor, but as a family member and extended family member, I know that many bipolar children appear with ADHD in their early years and are treated with ADHD medication.
They are treated with stimulants that have no effect on bipolar disorder.
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#27I hate sounding like an alarmist....but something is extremely wrong with how physicians handle adverse reactions. So, I took a flouroquinolone and had a text book reaction. 50+ physicians later at mayo and other top US hospitals and I was gaslighted more than helped in any way. I am now in a group for sufferers and meet new people daily, who took the drug and the doctor completely dismissed their neurological issues…
Not a drug reaction, but I had a rather dreadful experience with Mayo, where I reported severe digestive problems which had led to me losing a great amount of weight over a few months while being constantly in pain (175 to 118, I’m 5’10”). They did some esophagus tests, they looked okay and Mayo wrote it off as “health anxiety”. It turns out I was actually developing a form of adult onset type 1 diabetes (LADA).
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
Thanks, professor. Now how about you tell us your solution to peace in the middle east and renewable power.
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It's more horrifying to me that HN has turned into a kind of place where people will confidently assert their judgment something they have no knowledge about.
My son has ADHD. There are other ADHD cases in the family, so we knew that could be the case with him, but we waited until he was in middle school to even try to check, because we didn't want him to "depend on drugs", as the trope goes.
We got the diagnosis from two different doctors, to be absolutely sure.
The medication makes a stunning difference, and it has nothing to do with complacency at all. It has to do with being able to focus better and to overcome an obstacle that people like me don't have.
And the medication shouldn't be the only thing to use for ADHD. It should be used as a tool to help, but that's just the start. It's important for the parents to work with a psychologist, for two reasons: 1) to help the child develop their own tools and strategies to overcome the cons of ADHD, and 2) to help the parents understand the child better.
Like I said, I don't have ADHD. The things my son has to struggle with are often difficult for me to understand and identify with. The medication helps so he doesn't have to struggle as hard. And he's less "complacent" than ever, and that's a good thing.
What you're saying is the equivalent of "it's horrifying to me that so many children are forced to wear glasses so they become more complacent in school".
Re: Association between ADHD medication and depression: A 10-year follow-up
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The study also does not claim to show a causal relationship.
I was actually going to point that out. IMO from what I've seen of parents are that people who bring their children at a young-ish age to a therapist have a different issue. Especially "being to hyper" or "being unable to focus" have a different issue. Children are supposed to be outside moving 8-12 hours a day, have you seen puppies? They need something similar. Instead many parents give their children tablets, plop…
As someone with ADHD, who has a kid with ADHD, this dismissive attitude is really unwelcome. Inattentiveness is a real symptom with drastic life-altering effects for which medication is a godsend. Studies have shown that exposure to screen time does not result in ADHD.
To be told "you're just a bad parent who lets their kid watch an iPad too much" is infuriating. (I'm trying to keep things civil per the site rules, but my honest reaction begins with 'F' and ends with 'U', guy.)