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Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There’s no recession as far as the eye can see. Back your pardon? The Fed is expected to raise the interest rate by 0.75% in September, IIRC. If that's not a recession on the horizon, then what is?

We would still be below 2%. Interest Rate in the United States averaged 5.44 percent from 1971 until 2022.

Still waiting for the banks to raise my saving's interest rate to 70's level. ½ percent doesn't cut it.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

#42
post #3

If we follow the weekly updates: 1. First a hiring "slowdown". 2. Hiring freeze and rescinded offers. 3. 18% layoffs. What's the reason behind announcing it in stages? Don't they receive much more negative publicity this way? Or are they really making decisions from one week for the next?

I think you're really asking about a continuous vs discrete management approach.

In a continuous approach, you run the company according to control-theory like laws. Ie. you want to maximize profits, so you adjust the workforce up and down gradually to maximize profits. If labor prices go down 3% you might increase headcount by 1.5% to stay at optimal profitability. All parts of the company get optimized to the best of your ability like this, with signals giving a proportionate effect to the levers you control.

In a discrete approach, you recognise that some actions will have dramatic non-linear effects, and therefore it's better to announce a 10% downscaling rather than ten separate 1% downscalings.

The downside of the discrete approach is your response to signals is delayed, because you want to group together the bad news, and don't want to pull a big lever based on uncertain information.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

#43
To everyone: 2017 had the exact same pattern. Coinbase is suffering this time because they didn't learn at all the lessons that happened to the companies in 2017. For example, you will not see this happen with Kraken.

This is normal, nothing to see here.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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It’s been pretty interesting watching YC backed Coinbase get absolutely crushed by FTX, which has a higher % of crypto trading volume despite having less than 10% of the headcount. Crypto is a zero sum game, and the old Paul Graham essays and other tired VC dogmas really only work in positive sum games. FTX was founded by traders which is valuable when the ultimate purpose of the crypto industry is to separate uninfo…

Yeah. FTX people clearly know a lot more about market making and how exchanges work. Makes coinbase look like amateurs. Coinbase hired their CPO with a 650 million dollar pay package. They should have spent that money on 2 - 5 million a year hft programmers and traders

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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It’s been pretty interesting watching YC backed Coinbase get absolutely crushed by FTX, which has a higher % of crypto trading volume despite having less than 10% of the headcount. Crypto is a zero sum game, and the old Paul Graham essays and other tired VC dogmas really only work in positive sum games. FTX was founded by traders which is valuable when the ultimate purpose of the crypto industry is to separate uninfo…

FTX's success is a bit questionable. They are the biggest buyer of USDT/Tether and shady things are probably going on there.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

#48
post #7

This is sad. This was avoidable. There’s no recession as far as the eye can see. There’s a crypto recession. Let’s go back to building real tech.

> This was avoidable. There’s no recession as far as the eye can see. Can you elaborate on how the situation we're in was avoidable? Also curious why you think there's no signs of a recession.

The avoidable part is pretty obvious: don't invest in, work for, trade in crypto.

The recession part is of course debatable.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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It’s been pretty interesting watching YC backed Coinbase get absolutely crushed by FTX, which has a higher % of crypto trading volume despite having less than 10% of the headcount. Crypto is a zero sum game, and the old Paul Graham essays and other tired VC dogmas really only work in positive sum games. FTX was founded by traders which is valuable when the ultimate purpose of the crypto industry is to separate uninfo…

FTX is also going to feel a lot of pain when the crypto market crash completes. None of these companies are IMO sustainable without mass interest in cryptocurrencies, which is rapidly fading as people realise they're not going to get rich quick.
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