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Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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Oh boy oh boy that thread had lots of ETH and sETH and oETH und BTC and what not.

No wonder that it's hard for some people to see the Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes and what else those things are called.

Regulations anyone?

Or do we now just see people loosing their money?

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#12
Who said doublespent is impossible? Innovating your way out of such a limitation :

"$stETH is a product by @LidoFinance.

It stands for (liquid) staked $ETH and it's one of the most innovative DeFi products to be released in the last few years.

$stETH can also be used to earn MORE yield than otherwise possible with vanilla $ETH.

Why?

Because while $stETH already earns staking yield, it can also be lent out or liquidity provisioned."

Re: Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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My favorite part of this is that because their reserves are illiquid, Celsius is forced to take out loans from other exchanges in order to pay out withdrawals. Each of these transactions/bailouts was visible on the blockchain and immediately called out on Twitter, accelerating withdrawals. A run on the exchange. If one major exchange goes bust and people learn that they have no recourse to recover funds, expect to se…

> Each of these transactions/bailouts was visible on the blockchain and immediately called out on Twitter, accelerating withdrawals. Well, they could have used Monero.

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Re: Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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post #9

Reddit thread warning about this 2 weeks ago. Not everyone agreed. https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/v29t59/cels...

you could be talking about the sky being blue during the day and not everyone would agree on reddit.

But crypto discussions on Reddit are just ridiculous. You do get some good nugets like OP's but for the most part it's a group of cryto bros pushing their own exposure.

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post #8

The crypto market is crashing for the same reason real financial markets are crashing. The problems with Celsius are an irrelevant blip.

Except the real financial markets have a bottom where contrarian investors will step in and stop the free fall. What tangible value is there for a contrarian investor in crypto?

Same as before - hope the price is low enough and starts rising for the same reasons it was rising years ago.

Re: Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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Celsius has had a chilling effect on the crypto market.

Celsius plummets as crypto Winter is marching in. Tomorrow in Web3 you can expect strong headwinds, with a low of -99 Celsius. Watch out for those cold showers as liquidation cascades mount and a damp, chilly mood will be in charge. But it’s not all doom and gloom - while we may test record lows, the long term outlook remains sunny for 2023 and beyond.

Re: Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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post #11

Oh boy oh boy that thread had lots of ETH and sETH and oETH und BTC and what not. No wonder that it's hard for some people to see the Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes and what else those things are called. Regulations anyone? Or do we now just see people loosing their money?

My inability to understand these financial instruments without hours of study is why I never put money into anything other than a couple of major currencies for funsies. Vanguard ETFs, mortgages, and bank accounts make sense. So I keep serious money in those.

Re: Celsius Appears insolvent, and it's taking the whole crypto market with it

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post #11

Oh boy oh boy that thread had lots of ETH and sETH and oETH und BTC and what not. No wonder that it's hard for some people to see the Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes and what else those things are called. Regulations anyone? Or do we now just see people loosing their money?

With regulations people will be loosing their money anyway, but with confidence, because they will have a sense of some legitimacy.

The only regulations crypto needs is how to call things. Just like whatever Tesla has should not be called Autopilot, crypto prophets should not be allowed to call it investment. Call it gambling and off you go.

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