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Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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> What is the thing that makes it end? This is much easier to answer, at least in general, than many of the other "bubble" questions out there. The growth simply requires a larger and larger pool of new investors. It first started with tech enthusiasts who were really interested in the principles of cryptocurrency and people who also knew how they worked. The was a time when everyone in crypto had read the original B…

I’ve heard this exact argument 5 or 10 years ago. Yet here we are. Like I said, I totally think cryptocoins are all scams. I’m just amazed that the bottom hasn’t fallen out yet.

> I’ve heard this exact argument 5 or 10 years ago. Yet here we are.

We've had an unprecedented boom period and non-stop money flooding the market for the last 5-10 years so there's no way possible the argument could have come to it's logical fulfillment in that period of time.

As long as money is flowing insanely anything is possible, there is no reality. Look at how many startups there are with non-sensical products, insane hiring practices and out of control leadership. When the money just pours in the top of the funnel all kinds of wacky stuff happens.

We're starting to reality come back, and I think it may bite us this time.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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I am so happy about this. I hope this is going to sour crypto for "investors". I use quotes, because they really are not -- investing should be reserved for fronting cash to create some value (like buying stock to infuse capital into a corporation). As it is all crypto trading is purely speculation. The world would be so much better if money tended to be exchanged in good faith, to improve something rather than just…

Being happy about retail investors losing money is immoral. I hope you realize that.

We have a lot of investments in the US that do nothing except force people to grind even harder. Look at the housing market. Why should housing be an investment when we absolutely need it to live and there are other investment vehicles that do just as well if not better?

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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meanwhile anybody who has their own keys is able to transact with it as per usual. “not your keys not your coin.” holding keys are not trivial but far simpler than running a server, better analogy might be to do with people not wanting to stake with a validator because it’s easier to use a centralized staking service.

If all the exchanges lock users out, you can “transact” with BTC But can you convert it into US dollars? Where does one spend BTC these days, buy some furniture off overstock?

Where does one spend gold these days?

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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What is moxie?

It's guy that promised you private chats by asking you to register with a phone number.

This is confusing privacy and anonymity. He 100% delivered on the former; the latter was the trade off.

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Why would programmable money be useful for anything beyond financial engineering. It’s literally engineering + finance. Why is financial engineering inherently universally without qualification bad? I have a mortgage, an index fund, and an ATM card. I :heart: financial engineering.

> Why is financial engineering inherently universally without qualification bad? Yeah because it takes up engineering time and produces no tangible good but to widen inequality.

I cited three examples of financial engineering. Just to be clear you oppose mortgages, index funds, and ATM machines?

I agree all of these or at least mortgages and index funds probably increase inequality especially given uneven access. As far as tangible goods — home ownership, retirement savings, and less time spent waiting at the bank.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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Wouldn't go that far - the programmable aspects were at release were certainly unique and value added.

To do what? (Other than enable financial engineering)

Put in one buck, take out two bucks. The American Dream.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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I am so happy about this. I hope this is going to sour crypto for "investors". I use quotes, because they really are not -- investing should be reserved for fronting cash to create some value (like buying stock to infuse capital into a corporation). As it is all crypto trading is purely speculation. The world would be so much better if money tended to be exchanged in good faith, to improve something rather than just…

> As it is all crypto trading is purely speculation. The reason I stay invested is the supply-side economics. The supply is well-known in advance, and is advantageous to Bitcoin. US M2 money supply grew 8.04% in the past year [0], while Bitcoin's grew ~1.75% [1]. Yes, demand has its 80% ups and downs, but each crash was to a level higher than the previous. [0] - https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_m2_money_supply_yoy […

There are many many things in the world that grow slower than US money supply but nonetheless see their price go down or plateau.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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I recently watched some traditional cable and was shocked by the number of crypto ads bombarding viewers. I have to imagine that this market was goosed up by retail investors trading on coinbase and binance just as the e-betting market was. The only difference between crypto and e-betting is that everyone got to be a winner on the crypto markets for a while. As users lose out, and exchanges stop ad campaigns - how lo…

> Crypto needed a tangible market/reason d'etre to be valuable.

The reason, as we have been reminded so many times, is that it's an inflation-resistant store of value.

Pay no attention to BTC tanking right after actual inflation started.

It's weird how, as an inflation-resistant store of value, it only seems to work when we have asset-inflation, but stops working when we have main-street-grocery-prices-inflation.

Perhaps it's some web 3.0 financial wizardry that I'm just not smart enough to understand, but it seems to me that the only reason it was going up in price was because printed money (USD or USDT) was chasing yield.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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> What queue? Is there a queue in the bitcoin network? Yes, that's what the mempool is. >I thought it was a question of paying a high enough transaction fee and you would get your transaction done faster / within 10 minutes. that's broadly true, but if transaction volume spikes then your initial fee estimate might be too low. there are ways around this (RBF, CPFP), but it's unknown whether their wallet software handl…

How would this be an excuse for Binance to block outgoing transactions? Unless somehow all of Binance's bitcoin was stuck in the mempool ...

They just described a situation where most of their readily available bitcoin (exchanges do not keep more than a minimum of their available cryptocurrencies in a programmatrically available wallet) could be stuck in the mempool.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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post #108

I recently watched some traditional cable and was shocked by the number of crypto ads bombarding viewers. I have to imagine that this market was goosed up by retail investors trading on coinbase and binance just as the e-betting market was. The only difference between crypto and e-betting is that everyone got to be a winner on the crypto markets for a while. As users lose out, and exchanges stop ad campaigns - how lo…

> I'd doubt BTC will go to zero, but I wouldn't be surprised if the entire covid rally gets wiped out and we see BTC 6k again. I agree. We invest a small amount of money into $BTC and I feel pretty neutral on the topic and my comments come from an intention of neutral observation. I think $BTC is in a bad spot that's about to get worse in the short-term. It's getting hit from both ends: expensive energy, and high int…

It sounds to me like you’ve said that BTC will both go up and not go up in an inflationary environment.

I’ve been wondering why a hedge wouldn’t be for this exact environment, so can you explain your thinking a bit more?

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