I've recently started maining Seamonkey as a browser. It has a better UX than all of the big ones -- especially Chrome but even Firefox isn't so great anymore. The Mozilla spinoff projects have lots to recommend them, now that Mozilla is more an outreach organization than a software development organization.
Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
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Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#142Not thrilled. I use K9 and I don't really want Thunderbird to have anything to do with it :/
You realize it is the same developer and can leave thunderbird whenever he is not happy with the direction it takes?
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#143As a Thunderbird and K-9 user this is 51% good news and 49% possibly bad new. Good news because it should increase the chances that the two products will live a longer life. Possibly bad news because I'm one of the crowd that went back to K-9 5.600 because the new version destroyed the UI that was the primary reason why we picked K-9 over other apps. 100% self selection bias here. There was maybe an ongoing effort to…
Given how SMS on Android is basically just a database that's shared between all SMS apps... it does seem like there should be an email equivalent. Not having to plug my password into every email app would be a good thing. Or does IMAP cover that sufficiently well, e.g. not requiring duplicating a ton of data? I haven't dug into the spec before, I've just always used it with "download everything all the time" configs,…
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note that Mozilla has nothing to do with Thunderbird anymore. They abandoned Thunderbird and it's a totally separate community project these days.
It's still part of mozilla the company and has a special advantage in that they can actually receive donations directly, unlike the browser project.
Having decided to just look while writing this comment, apparently it was a couple million last year? Which doesn't seem bad.
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#145Does anyone know how to make gmail play nice with K-9 or FairEmail? Gmail keeps asking me to log in through a browser on my phone, and authorize almost every log in attempt, and not all authorizations are accepted! When I log in into my gmail account on a computer and authorize the "suspect" log ins, gmail still refuses (8/10 times) to allow use through 3rd party apps. My experience with 3rd party email apps has been…
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this proves Firefox is dying. A better indicator would be Chrome's past decade of 90%+ browser market share. It's also worth noting that a good amount of the features not implemented in Firefox are either Chrome-specific experiments, or features purposefully unimplemented for privacy purposes. If anything, it shows the damage of a browser-tech monopoly which Edge and Brave aren't helping with.
I don't think features such as Web USB, Web Bluetooth are privacy invasive. Chrome's huge market share is the very reason Firefox isn't trying very hard here. They are playing catch up. Take Manifest v3 for example; Chrome introduced it quite a while ago and made it mandatory for new extensions in 2022. Firefox just started catching up. This is bad for Firefox because developers will eventually (and some still do) wi…
The overarching theme of your writing on this topic is that Chrome can just spit out Web 'features' at random and unless Firefox implements all of them immediately it is dying. I hope you can try to understand that not only is this not an accurate assessment, but maybe also that Firefox has value beyond being a copy of Chrome.
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#147- Full encryption integrated into the client for all data (e.g., I don't want Windows Search able to index the mail so someone has access when the client is closed/unencrypted; I also remember testing Thunderbird years ago and was able to go into the individual unencrypted .eml files [I think that's what they were] and read the messages without having Thunderbird opened)
- Full local sync with Android/iPhone (i.e., home WiFi, Bluetooth, or USB cable); it still amazes me that Thunderbird still doesn't have this built-in
- Xobni-like functionality (e.g., showing all emails and attachments to/from sender when clicking on an email, keyword searches); yes, I know the plugin is still available but it doesn't work properly with current Outlook versions (and no plugin like this exists for Thunderbird)
But if the upgraded K-9 also got other integrated Thunderbird functionality (e.g., calendar, contacts, tasks), that would be especially amazing as I could then move away from Google (which I'd also LOVE to do). For example, the Notes field in Google's base Contacts app is limited to 1000 characters. That means I can only sync Outlook to Android one-way (else I lose longer notes when they sync back).
To be able to move away from Microsoft and Google to open source... now that's a future worth dreaming about.
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given how SMS on Android is basically just a database that's shared between all SMS apps... it does seem like there should be an email equivalent. Not having to plug my password into every email app would be a good thing. Or does IMAP cover that sufficiently well, e.g. not requiring duplicating a ton of data? I haven't dug into the spec before, I've just always used it with "download everything all the time" configs,…
So that more apps can snoop on your email? Why would you want to use more than one email-app for the same accounts ? (I get that you might want to use the gmail app for a gmail account, but then using the same account in K9 doesn't make much sense to me)
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#149Long time Thunderbird in Linux user, had to switch to Mutt a few months ago. Having 3 inboxes configured was taking, for some reason, +10Gb of disk and several Gb of RAM, plus being painfully slow and freeze pretty often.
My fix for most annoyances was to copy mail locally, and run dovecot locally on the same box as TB (TB doesn't support standard maildir). I also added a wrapper script that does a VACUUM on all the sqlite dbs in the profile when starting TB.
With the above, TB has worked well for me.
Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android
#150Perhaps it wasn't DropBox but something else ... Perhaps I'm even making this up (although I don't think so). I've always wanted to know more about this promotion of a filesharing service in Thunderbird, so if anyone knows anything about this, please reply (:
AFAIR it was a preinstalled extension on Thunderbird from Debian.