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Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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Sure. many of those speculators will be forced to wait for Binance to resume BTC orders, or use another centralized exchange, or use a bridge to swap BTC to another crypto asset.. Edit: swapping BTC needs a centralized bridge as child commenter notes

Unfortunately there is no decentralized exchange for BTC. There is no smart contracts on BTC so you have to somehow bridge it to something like Ethereum before you can swap it. And to bridge it you have to rely on some centralized party, such as WBTC. (I know renBTC but it's unclear who their validators are so I'd just assume it's centralized)

>There is no smart contracts on BTC

Not true, BTC does have smart contracts. They called it op-code and most people don't use it anymore, but me and my friends built a poker game and we play every Thursday.

The original wallet download also had a poker game, but they decided to take it out after a while to ensure btc wasn't labeled as "Gambling"

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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You really cannot make this up. As usual crypto in practice is the opposite of decentralized because people. Will. Not. Run. Their. Servers. Moxie nailed it

> You really cannot make this up. Not only you can make this up but it's literally happened hundreds of times in the history of cryptocurrency. So much that there is even a catchphrase for it: "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin". MtGox being the most infamous example. > As usual crypto in practice is the opposite of decentralized because people. Will. Not. Run. Their. Servers. 1) Only a small percentage of the total Bi…

> Why is this the top comment? I don't know (but I have my suspicions)

It’s because many people clicked the up arrow. There’s no Vast Conspiracy.

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I recently watched some traditional cable and was shocked by the number of crypto ads bombarding viewers. I have to imagine that this market was goosed up by retail investors trading on coinbase and binance just as the e-betting market was. The only difference between crypto and e-betting is that everyone got to be a winner on the crypto markets for a while. As users lose out, and exchanges stop ad campaigns - how lo…

I recall walking through an airport this year and seeing Crypto ads everywhere. That was my shoeshine boy moment (1) (1) https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-spot-stock-market-bub...

I saw the Crypto.com Arena as a Pets.com Superbowl moment.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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banking is for fiat currencies whose value halves ever dozens of years. you dont have to worry about bank robbers. inflation does the same thing.

> whose value halves ever dozens of years This seems demonstrably better than halving over 6 months...

Or six hours.

Looking at you not-stable coin.

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> I'd doubt BTC will go to zero, but I wouldn't be surprised if the entire covid rally gets wiped out and we see BTC 6k again. I agree. We invest a small amount of money into $BTC and I feel pretty neutral on the topic and my comments come from an intention of neutral observation. I think $BTC is in a bad spot that's about to get worse in the short-term. It's getting hit from both ends: expensive energy, and high int…

Long term I'm bearish because it's a deflationary asset. Deflationary value stores have a tendency to cause all sorts of social ills by encouraging hoarding. There's a reasonable line of thought that observes that it's no coincidence that the end of the age of European colonialism coincided with the demise of the gold standard. More concretely: if crypto is deflationary, then its value works similarly to how an Amway…

That's a common fallacy. Hoarding, saving, preparing for the future is one of most fundamental human needs and the bedrock for a functioning economy and society. There's no fundamental economic principle which would indicate that an inflationary money would do any good to a society. It destroys savings, which is opposite of what is good for an individual and a society.

Also, because you mentioned colonialism, read this to understand how colonialism and slave trade was enabled by inflation (counterfeit money): https://breedlove22.medium.com/masters-and-slaves-of-money-2...

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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> You really cannot make this up. Not only you can make this up but it's literally happened hundreds of times in the history of cryptocurrency. So much that there is even a catchphrase for it: "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin". MtGox being the most infamous example. > As usual crypto in practice is the opposite of decentralized because people. Will. Not. Run. Their. Servers. 1) Only a small percentage of the total Bi…

> Why is this the top comment? I don't know (but I have my suspicions) It’s because many people clicked the up arrow. There’s no Vast Conspiracy.

I don't think there is, see my reply here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31727483

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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You really cannot make this up. As usual crypto in practice is the opposite of decentralized because people. Will. Not. Run. Their. Servers. Moxie nailed it

> As usual crypto in practice is the opposite of decentralized because people. Will. Not. Run. Their. Servers. "My theory would be perfect if only I could convince humans to stop acting like humans," is the original sin of bad economics. I would submit that it is approximately impossible to have a cryptocurrency that is simultaneously popularly successful, and has even a significant minority of its users owning their…

Is that a failure of implementation though? I ask because you also said "impossible".

Computers themselves were impossibly unfriendly for so long. What if someone created a UX friendly cryptocurrency. Like any computer, deep down it could be insanely complex, but is it a requirement that the UX reflect that complexity?

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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I really don't get why people are happy about Bitcoin crashing. It is the only hope for freedom. What do you mean by "exchanging money in good faith"? So being able to prove transactions are valid is a bad thing in your opinion? You think it is a good thing that the FED can make the whole economy tumble by playing with their interest rates?

> It is the only hope for freedom. I... am not sure how to reply to something like this. Does this not strike people as a bit cult-like?

>Does this not strike people as a bit cult-like?

Crypto is not a technology, it's a religion. The reason behind this is that it takes faith to believe that today does not represent tomorrow.

There is more nuance behind crypto besides its technological innovation like AMM's ,ZK-proofs & distributed computing. It's the idea that you can be a self-soverign individual, owing fealty to no nation.

It's often brought along at the disillusionment of the current united states world order. We see rampant corruption, an absolutely ancient leadership completely out of touch with the current generation and an economy that seems to forever favor the rich. There is no light at the end of the tunnel in the current economic system for a large majority of the population.

Bitcoin promises(ed?) the ability to transact with anyone on the planet outside the vieew of the current regime. Bitcoin promised "Proof of work" over "Proof of violence". It has allowed us to create "ad-hoc governance" like neveer before. it gave an entire generation of people light at the end of the tunnel.

I am not saying that any of these things are correct, or 'Right'. Simply stating how i've seen the community evolve and why.

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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I just liquidated my entire BTC position. Crypto failed and will never be anything but a grift. I'm out.

I have two buying/selling indicators for crypto. 1. When my mom or other people who have no business in investing in crypto ask me how much bitcoin they should buy. (selling indicator) 2. When people start liquidating their positions and call crypto a grift. (buying indicator)

What do you do when both are happening at the same time?

Re: Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance

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> I'd doubt BTC will go to zero, but I wouldn't be surprised if the entire covid rally gets wiped out and we see BTC 6k again. I agree. We invest a small amount of money into $BTC and I feel pretty neutral on the topic and my comments come from an intention of neutral observation. I think $BTC is in a bad spot that's about to get worse in the short-term. It's getting hit from both ends: expensive energy, and high int…

What does Bitcoin provide that a cheaper coin doesn't? The only thing pushing the price up is speculation, all digital coins are worth pennies as they're all completely interchangeable from an end user perspective.

> What does Bitcoin provide that a cheaper coin doesn't?

Longer track record than the rest. More buy-in from people. Just like Gold vs other shiny metals.

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