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Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#51
post #38

I'm continually creeped out by all the PR sugarcoating on what essentially are simple notices of acquisition. So all this is in effect saying is that K9 got acquired by Mozilla and will be integrated into the suite of Mozilla products. The justification given in the post is just non-information, because you could say this for almost any pair of software products if you define the terms fuzzily enough: > The Thunderbi…

> isn't this exactly one of the things that the app store rules are supposed to protect against?

Umm, no? There's never been a rule about an app developer selling their app/company - that'd be pretty badly restrictive.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#52

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

Thunderbird is built on top of a browser. Most code for it's functionality isn't C++. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#53
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is a dying horse on its last throes before Hades claims it for its own. Mythology aside, I find it truly sad to see the state Firefox is in. A browser is an incredibly complex piece of software and what Mozilla did with Firefox is nothing short of brilliant. Alas, they have been left too far behind [0] I am afraid they'll no longer be relevant in a few years. Every few months Mozilla tries to overhaul it's UI…

I'm not sure which Firefox you're using, but the description you've laid out here doesn't match my experience at all. I've been using FF on desktop and android for years and have had no issues whatsoever. In what way do you feel firefox has been "left too far behind" ? There was a time when Chrome was faster by an ample margin, but it's no longer enough to be an important distinction. Between the privacy respecting f…

A full detailed list: https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC...

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#54
post #36

This is a wonderful news! Finally, k9 mail will come with OAuth functionality!! or won't they?

Yes; this work was started even before the latest FairEmail kerfluffle, and is slated for K-9 6.200.

https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/655#issuecomment-113165...

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#55

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

> Surely there is a space for minimalist office suites and email clients,

FWIW, my email life improved massively when I left the likes of Thunderbird and KMail behind for the simplicity of mu/mu4e [1]. I hear similarly stellar things about Notmuch [2]. I'm never going back to an email client that even thinks about itself in relation to "office suites".

(For casual reading, and very rare composing, on a phone, k9 works passably well for me [3])

[1] https://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/

[2] https://notmuchmail.org/

[3] https://k9mail.app/

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#57
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is a dying horse on its last throes before Hades claims it for its own. Mythology aside, I find it truly sad to see the state Firefox is in. A browser is an incredibly complex piece of software and what Mozilla did with Firefox is nothing short of brilliant. Alas, they have been left too far behind [0] I am afraid they'll no longer be relevant in a few years. Every few months Mozilla tries to overhaul it's UI…

I'm not sure which Firefox you're using, but the description you've laid out here doesn't match my experience at all. I've been using FF on desktop and android for years and have had no issues whatsoever. In what way do you feel firefox has been "left too far behind" ? There was a time when Chrome was faster by an ample margin, but it's no longer enough to be an important distinction. Between the privacy respecting f…

Brave is a way better choice. As for plugin support on mobile, yes that's missing but I use extensions mainly on desktop. Brave comes with an adblocker built in and if that doesn't work, you could use something like Adguard.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#58
post #34

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

Arguing for electron on hn? Brave. (I like electron fwiw, it's enabled me to have a desktop experience with applications that would've otherwise never come to linux)

Email clients need to display full html/css/js now

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#59

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

> An email client should be a webview + sql-lite, no?

I strongly prefer Maildir. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

#60
This is fantastic news all around!

I recall the K-9 developer needing additional funding in the past, so this is great news for that project [0]. In addition, I'd much rather use "thunderbird" on mobile as an extension of K9, since it has thus far been my favourite mobile client. Work in the most recent years has been wonderful, and it's a pleasure to use (although I've vastly cut down on mail on mobile because hey, a keyboard is better).

Overall, this seems like it makes a lot of sense. Hopefully this will mean that the shift to supporting a mobile client won't detract from the good stuff desktop Thunderbird is doing as well.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26131509

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