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Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

ekianjo wrote: post #8
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two work in tandem, though. I use Firefox on mobile because I use Firefox on desktop. That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of course. I currently use Thunderbird on desktop, but use a combination of Gmail and Outlook on Android. If Thunderbird picks up K-9 mail and turns it into a first-class mobile client, I'll probably use Thunderbird instead of the Outlook app. People like consis…

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uBlock by itself is enough to justify using Firefox on Android. Still sucks that they made it so limited, sure, but Mozilla's really good at nailing "somehow the least awful awful browser".

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by will0 »

javajosh wrote: post #25

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

Arguing for electron on hn? Brave.

(I like electron fwiw, it's enabled me to have a desktop experience with applications that would've otherwise never come to linux)

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by ekianjo »

emodendroket wrote: post #3

Hate to be a stick in the mud, but I worry about a loss of focus when Thunderbird is one of the few in a dying category on the desktop, which is much less true on mobile.

its mostly dying because its so poorly optimized it chokes on mailboxes that have more than hundred emails and cant do search properly. One of the worst FOSS out there.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by TheFreim »

javajosh wrote: post #25

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

> but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it

I don't use thunderbird currently, but have for /very/ short amounts of time in the past. What seems bloated about it? For reading and writing e-mail it worked fine and other features seemed to stay out of the way in menus I didn't need to use.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by xg15 »

I'm continually creeped out by all the PR sugarcoating on what essentially are simple notices of acquisition. So all this is in effect saying is that K9 got acquired by Mozilla and will be integrated into the suite of Mozilla products.

The justification given in the post is just non-information, because you could say this for almost any pair of software products if you define the terms fuzzily enough:

> The Thunderbird team had many discussions on how we might provide a great mobile experience for our users. In the end, we didn’t want to duplicate effort if we could combine forces with an existing open-source project that shared our values. Over years of discussing ways K-9 and Thunderbird could collaborate, we decided it would best serve our users to work together.

I don't want to say this is bad for K9, bit I still wonder what will happen to existing K9 installs.

If you install Android app X and, due to an acquisition, the app suddenly morphs into app Y which has a different branding, different UI, different features, a different backend and a different development team (but still has your data), isn't this exactly one of the things that the app store rules are supposed to protect against?

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by itintheory »

longrod wrote: post #21
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two work in tandem, though. I use Firefox on mobile because I use Firefox on desktop. That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of course. I currently use Thunderbird on desktop, but use a combination of Gmail and Outlook on Android. If Thunderbird picks up K-9 mail and turns it into a first-class mobile client, I'll probably use Thunderbird instead of the Outlook app. People like consis…

Firefox is a dying horse on its last throes before Hades claims it for its own. Mythology aside, I find it truly sad to see the state Firefox is in. A browser is an incredibly complex piece of software and what Mozilla did with Firefox is nothing short of brilliant. Alas, they have been left too far behind [0] I am afraid they'll no longer be relevant in a few years. Every few months Mozilla tries to overhaul it's UI…

I'm not sure which Firefox you're using, but the description you've laid out here doesn't match my experience at all. I've been using FF on desktop and android for years and have had no issues whatsoever. In what way do you feel firefox has been "left too far behind" ?

There was a time when Chrome was faster by an ample margin, but it's no longer enough to be an important distinction. Between the privacy respecting features, and plugin support on mobile - Firefox is the best choice.

Re: Our plans for Thunderbird on Android

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Post by uneekname »

javajosh wrote: post #25

As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…

I agree with you. It seems like the self-hosting community is getting a decent bit of attention right now, and the ability to deploy browser-based applications is the way to go for many FOSS projects.

I think NextCloud [0] has a few apps that do G Suite-type stuff, but I don't have experience using them. Etherpad [1] also seems really good, I've used it in a few Zoom calls and the experience was smooth. Personally, I'm looking for a Google Photos alternative that's stable enough for my parents to use.

[0] https://apps.nextcloud.com/

[1] https://etherpad.org/

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