EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
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Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#25 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31671328
Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#3Better than nothing, but the date is a bit far away if we want carbon neutrality before (or even around) 2050. Cars have fairly long service times. Hopefully the market will phase out ICEs earlier than that except for niche uses.
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#4I wonder how realistic that is. That’s a huge shift to make in only 13 years. I guess we’ll see!
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#5The whole of Europe including the Eastern block? Good luck by 2035
Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#6This is good from an environmental perspective, if (and that is a big if) the electricity is generated from clean sources.
The societal implications are worrisome. Electric vehicles tend to track and surveil their "owners", fast charging is centralized and can be tracked as well.
We have seen how far dystopian regimes like Trudeau's are willing to go. Instead of freezing the bank accounts using enabling laws, he could also shut off the grid or exclude specific vehicles. Mandatory kill switches for vehicles will come in handy as well.
I'm sure the army and police armored vehicles for population suppression will still have combustion engines.
Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#7Better than nothing, but the date is a bit far away if we want carbon neutrality before (or even around) 2050. Cars have fairly long service times. Hopefully the market will phase out ICEs earlier than that except for niche uses.
It's interesting to see how there are two top-level comments, one saying the date is too far away and the other saying that it's a short period for such a transition.
I guess both are true in some way - it's really challenging to decarbonise quickly, but we need even quicker, because we're way past reasonable in terms of the environmental situation.
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#8The whole of Europe including the Eastern block? Good luck by 2035
As per tradition, Germany and beyond will switch to electric and the diesel/gas cars will flood the Easter European markets.
Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#9The whole of Europe including the Eastern block? Good luck by 2035
Private jets will still be allowed and they'll still export gas-guzzling Ferraris to Saudi Arabia and Moscow.
Re: EU vote to ban all sales of combustion engine vehicles by 2035
#10Sounds like today is the worst day to sell my 1.6l diesel, but tomorrow will be worse.