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I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Post by vikingerik »

nojito wrote: post #60
blip54321 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most of us value our freedom more. Most people don't think of it in terms of freedom, but freedom it is. With proprietary software: - You don't know when it will disappear or be discontinued. Even your paid-for existing version stops working when the activation servers go down. - You might be forced into an "upgrade" which breaks something you rely on - That's not to mention issues like being able to fix bugs…

Nothing to do with freedom. People are naturally cheap. Which is why free tiers are so popular.

Cheapness is freedom, from expending resources.

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Post by WuxiFingerHold »

indymike wrote: post #191
jmyeet wrote: post #20

What I find truly bizarre is how many software engineers, who are aware of how much they earn and how long it really takes to make software, are so resistant to paying anything for tools that make their job easier and faster. It blows my mind. Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of…

> Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of them are After a particularly bad tooling week (js supply chain problems, plugin problems and more than the usual amount of DB changes) Our dev team made the unanimous call to move require all developers to use Jetbrains IDEs instead of the…

> We all picked up 2-3 hours per week

Why every week? Usually you do it once and adapt when you need a new plugin, which is usually a matter of minutes.

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Post by randyrand »

jmyeet wrote: post #20

What I find truly bizarre is how many software engineers, who are aware of how much they earn and how long it really takes to make software, are so resistant to paying anything for tools that make their job easier and faster. It blows my mind. Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of…

Proprietary tools are too big of a risk of going belly up, or not being maintained.

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Post by sharken »

bitwize wrote: post #58
sharken wrote: post #34

I originally read it as a different editor entirely than VS Code. The slight startup delay for VS Code vs. for example Notepad++ is quite annoying. I wish there was software as cool as VS Code, but with ultra low startup time.

Sublime Text?

Might try it, though the whole debugging experience in PowerShell in VS Code is quite good.

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Post by wiseowise »

belltaco wrote: post #297
wiseowise wrote: post #282

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That's literally what they've said. They imply that having ability to change something is useless, because only a minority can leverage it.

It's a bit like saying 'let them fly on private jets' and someone pointing out that only a few people in the population can afford it. Doesn't imply that private jets are useless, just that their use is limited.

Do you have access to private jet? Because everyone has access to, for instance, Atom source code. Even if they can't use it.

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Post by IshKebab »

aDfbrtVt wrote: post #227
IshKebab wrote: post #221

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It definitely has a relationship with quality in a fair number of domains. Find me free CAD software as good as SOLIDWORKS, or free maths software as good as MATLAB & Mathematica, or free EDA software as good as Altium or Vivado. There are loads of domains where none of the free options are very good.

I agree with you for the most part, I write this while running Matlab simulations in the background. Having tried to reach similar levels of productivity with Julia or Python, I find the FOSS environments always fall short in the tooling environment. Not to mention the importance of documentation. However, I can't help but take exception to Vivado and SOLIDWORKS being good software... While powerful, they are both in…

> However, I can't help but take exception to Vivado and SOLIDWORKS being good software... While powerful, they are both incredibly buggy and prone to crashing if you so much as look at them wrong.

That hasn't been my experience. Solidworks definitely isn't as responsive as I'd like, but frankly I'll take "a bit sluggish but has all the major features and is not a UX disaster" over something like FreeCAD or Yosys.

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Post by IshKebab »

esrh wrote: post #224
IshKebab wrote: post #221

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It definitely has a relationship with quality in a fair number of domains. Find me free CAD software as good as SOLIDWORKS, or free maths software as good as MATLAB & Mathematica, or free EDA software as good as Altium or Vivado. There are loads of domains where none of the free options are very good.

You might be right in cad and eda, but there's surely a case to be made that python libs(numpy, sympy), sage, r, octave could be better that matlab or mathematica.

I've used Numpy, Matplotlib, Octave and Scilab. None of them are really anywhere as good as Matlab. R has quite a different focus.

The biggest thing Matlab has is the GUI (which is surprisingly good!), the documentation (excellent), and the plot viewer. The plot viewer is probably its killer feature. There's just nothing remotely as good in any other software, at least as far as I could find.

Octave's is terrible. Barely any features and incredibly slow.

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Post by KineticLensman »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #288
KineticLensman wrote: post #135

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> I can't afford > $1000 per year for a hobby. In the UK a year's license for Photoshop, Lightroom and Bridge is approx £110.

That doesn't help him if he doesn't live in the UK though?

No but I can't believe US prices are almost ten times more expensive. If they are, he has a point

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Post by pizza234 »

devwastaken wrote: post #216
pizza234 wrote: post #5

> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. This is actually great news. Some extensions, especially language ones, are very poor, and paying for them (if someone makes a commercial version) is the only way to guarantee a good development experience. Ruby is an example, and swit…

Paying for software does not have a relationship with quality. Imagine if GCC had a "pro" version that was necessary to compile certain code. That would be devastating to those learning and thousands of devs that came before would be spinning in their graves. The reason we do open source and free software is to make life easier for everyone, including your job. It standardizes practices and prevents mudball codebases…

Generally speaking, commercial software gives more guarantees than free software, because free software writers have no obligations. Of course, there's no absolute certainty.

Right now I'm stuck with an old version of a certain software, because the extensions are free, but some of the authors are not upgrading them anymore. If the extensions were commercial, I'd be happily paying, if that would give the extensions a longer lifetime.

Having somebody working on an extension at least a part of their time, because it represents a source of income, surely makes a difference.

Again, VSC's Ruby extension sucks big time. If there was a company behind, with a paid developer, like in IntelliJ's case, it would certainly have a different quality.

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