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The Alaskan wilderness belongs to all of us. The people there are welcome to enjoy the wilderness. Not pave it.
This reads like imperialism. Do you think Alaskans should be able to have a say in whether land is developed or improved adjacent to where you live, say, in Alabama? Wouldn't make much sense to me..
Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’
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That’s vastly more expensive than the road. But this court case has also strayed well past being just about this specific road.
Is it? Lights, transponders, and equipment to keep the runway free from snow. let's assume $5.00/sq ft to lay down gravel - 5280 ft/mi * 60mi * 10ft wide road is about 3 million. That's pretty generous given the remote location, need to ship the heavy equipment. I really don't know, but you could dodge a lot of lawsuits and shave an hour off of time to trauma center. Which, as I understand it, is the real goal. get h…
Next is the question of maintenance, if you actually want to save an hour the runway would need to be kept clear 24/7 which is expensive. Alternatively, they can start clearing the runway after the emergency which costs less money but more time. On the other hand a gravel road should be passable via off-road vehicle or snowmobile with minimal effort. Over say 30 years the road might be the clear winner.
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We have to stop the destruction of the wilderness at some point, or we'll all die.
Please consider visiting rural Alaska. It might be more vast than you imagine. Please consider there are people in this community who need access to a critical resource that you likely take for granted. This particular example isn't a good 'hill to die on'.
I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful places to live in Alaska that have access to a hospital. If one chooses to live in a wilderness area with no road service, one accepts no road service.
It isn't unusual for elderly people to move to a place that is easier to maintain and is in close proximity to a hospital.
Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’
#154'Adverse development' is the term they use for the King Cove community's road to access an airport for emergency medical services. A group of rural Americans need access to a critical resource. They aren't building an open-pit mine. 'Trustees for Alaska' seems to be another majority out-of-state funded greenie organization that prioritizes a twisted anti-human agenda where if they got their way, entire villages would…
> entire villages would be eliminated Entire towns have been relocated for the greater good. Some examples are to build dams and reservoirs. Butler, Tennessee. American Falls, Idaho. Grand Coulee Dam forced the relocation of 3000 people. So many others, like these: https://www.uncharted101.com/the-submerged-towns-of-america/
Yeah, dams and reservoirs that obliterated not just those towns but any and all surrounding habitats - while also in many cases interfering with fish stocks/migration. "Greater good" indeed.
Maybe we should be tearing down those dams before quibbling over a gravel road.
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> people shouldn't be allowed to upgrade their infrastructure ever? In a wilderness area? No.
Whole US were a wilderness once... you're basically punishing them for not destroying their nature earlier on, like the rest of us did...
Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’
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It ain't too late yet for him to do a second term. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who'd want one - he seems to be doing a fine job as an ex-President - but I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over the average politician.
> It ain't too late yet for him to do a second term. He's going to be 100 years old in 2024. [1] If that's not too old for being a president, we might as well elect dead men. Given our decadence, that would significantly increase the quality of average politician. [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
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Agreed. He works hard to make the world a better place.
It ain't too late yet for him to do a second term. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who'd want one - he seems to be doing a fine job as an ex-President - but I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over the average politician.
Probably just slightly better than the current and previous office holders.
The last thing we need in this world it the worlds most powerful man being a full century old and inheriting an economy that is only slightly worse than the one he left us with when he was 55.
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Jimmy was a terrible President. He's still a very good man, and I admire him, and would love to have him over for dinner!
Same. I’d love to talk with someone like him. I can’t imagine a world where a nuclear engineer could even become president. Reality star makes sense to me more as a person who could actually become a president. President is a tough job and I don’t think I even know what a good one looks like. In my lifetime they’ve all disappointed me in some significant way or another.
He also turned down an offer to make him military dictator. I don't know of anyone else who has done that.
He set the tone of 2 terms and then step down.
He refused the trappings of royalty.
A great man and great President.
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Jimmy was a terrible President. He's still a very good man, and I admire him, and would love to have him over for dinner!
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Much appreciated. Jimmy never did that.
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Is it? Lights, transponders, and equipment to keep the runway free from snow. let's assume $5.00/sq ft to lay down gravel - 5280 ft/mi * 60mi * 10ft wide road is about 3 million. That's pretty generous given the remote location, need to ship the heavy equipment. I really don't know, but you could dodge a lot of lawsuits and shave an hour off of time to trauma center. Which, as I understand it, is the real goal. get h…
They would also need to seriously improve the runway to land in extreme wind conditions not just add ILS equipment. I don’t know what exactly is needed, but a single short gravel runway is a long way from being sufficient. Next is the question of maintenance, if you actually want to save an hour the runway would need to be kept clear 24/7 which is expensive. Alternatively, they can start clearing the runway after the…
I mean, like, peoples lives are at stake. Speed wins every single time. the longer someone goes without treatment, the less chance they have at survival. And that's the root question here. Access to emergency services. It's a solvable problem.