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Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously lobbied individuals keep trying to change that.

The residents in this particular area have been complaining for 30+ years (somewhat loudly) to the Alaskan government that they don't have access to basic commerce. There's no road! Jimmy Carter doesn't want to build a road to meet these people?

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Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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How is he responsible for the hostage crisis?

He's not. People are still buying into 40 year-old propaganda against him.

It remains baffling to me that Reagan gets credit for the end of the hostage crisis; the deal to free them was made by Carter's administration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers_Accords

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Looking at google maps, there's a ferry about 30 mile ride on the water. I don't know the route they're proposing, but maybe 60 miles over mountains. Ugh. The ambulance isn't going to be going 60 over washboard roads. The good people of Alaska can do whatever they want, but if the concern is medical emergencies, they should seriously consider keeping a plane at the airport, illuminate the airport, and make sure the r…

We built an interstate across an entire mountain range. Just because a road goes over a mountain does mean it can’t be easily possible at highway speeds.

Well, sure. but they're looking to put in a gravel road. king cove, population 757. I think you'd want a road grader to start, I don't see a quarry on the map, but maybe there's one near by. You could also move a rock crusher up there. I mean, it's fine, but gravel roads are kind of a pain. you have to keep adding more, year after year. I mean, you could pave it, but asphalt doesn't like freezing and thawing over and over. But sure, a good road could be built.

If they're concerned about emergency services - Anchorage seems like the closest trauma center. 900 miles away. Maintain the airport and keep a plane there. Screwing around with an hour drive before getting to a plane seems like the kind of plan that won't really help much if you need emergency services.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Atrocious to me that anybody would want to block that road. A mine? Sure. Logging? Yup. Oil exploration? Yeah. A gravel road to an airport in Alaska? Come on. I haven't lived in Rural Alaska in 20 years but I was born and raised in a fishing village. People in the lower 48 have no understanding of the vastness of Alaska and how small a concession this really is. These specious environmental lawsuits are why no infras…

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Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Gas is $6 a gallon, poor families are going hungry, but ok… Human life should matter more than some self-hating environmentalists’ desire for the earth to be some perceived paradise devoid of humanity.

> Human life should matter more than

This logic will lead to the complete destruction of all natural environments on the only planet in the solar system to host life, and then to our extinction.

"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#77
post #5

Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously lobbied individuals keep trying to change that.

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What I question is whether or not we really need to further develop a lot of natural spaces with sprawl and waste. I’m not sure why protecting untouched lands is “hating your own humanity” either. In fact I think it’s the opposite - it’s getting in touch with the core essence of being human, which is part of being in a natural environment, which we have less of because we have been tricked to think we more strip malls that are ugly and dumb compared to even the most barren in disturbed landscape. Hating humanity is destroying our history and our environment so we can pave roads and build another fast food chain. In a place like Iceland you’ll find undisturbed volcanic rock and moss. It’s more beautiful than all but the greatest brick house neighborhoods , monasteries built on cliff sides, castles, and Brooklyn Bridges.

There are very few government run agencies or programs that get voluntary donations. NASA is one, our national parks are the other. It’s obvious.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #15

Looking at google maps, there's a ferry about 30 mile ride on the water. I don't know the route they're proposing, but maybe 60 miles over mountains. Ugh. The ambulance isn't going to be going 60 over washboard roads. The good people of Alaska can do whatever they want, but if the concern is medical emergencies, they should seriously consider keeping a plane at the airport, illuminate the airport, and make sure the r…

The people of Alaska can't actually do what they want. Every attempt to develop resources is stopped by people that dont live in the state screaming about protecting the wilderness.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #15

Looking at google maps, there's a ferry about 30 mile ride on the water. I don't know the route they're proposing, but maybe 60 miles over mountains. Ugh. The ambulance isn't going to be going 60 over washboard roads. The good people of Alaska can do whatever they want, but if the concern is medical emergencies, they should seriously consider keeping a plane at the airport, illuminate the airport, and make sure the r…

Looking at Google Maps, it seems to be completely unnecessary to go through the INWR. The road could simply go one mile to the northwest, which isn't part of the refuge. I must be reading it wrong?

Also, you could make the ferry ride about half as long if you start on the other side of the peninsula from King Cove (only need two miles of road!).

Congress wrote a review in 2015 that assessed the possibilities for a helicopter and a ferry:

https://www.energy.senate.gov/services/files/D8EA08E9-75F1-4...

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #5

Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously lobbied individuals keep trying to change that.

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Is this sarcasm? Is there a single example in the history of mankind where mass human development has not led to the significant decline of plant and animal species in the surrounding areas?

If you accept that the diversity and abundance of plant and non-human animal life has instrinic value then it's an awfully easy to say that blocking further human development in wild areas is the "right" thing to do.

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