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“It is impossible for libre software to force updates” This isn’t even close to being true
If it did you'd just build a version with the offensive code removed?
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> but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way That's just not true. I have access to the full Jetbrains suite for free, yet I still opt to use Neovim or VS Code/Codium for most languages. Jetbrains IDEs are great in many ways, but are objectively worse on several metrics: * slow startup times * slow initial operations until the JIT is warmed up * even once warm, you always eventually…
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In fairness, though, this was probably four or five years ago. But it sure colored my opinion of the software.
Also this isn't exactly unheard of as you seem to think. It even necessitated a support article: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/clion/performance-tuning-tips...
But a quick Google search reveals that OP isn't a "zealot" making things up. Here, I did some work for you:
https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/po...
https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/po...
https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/po...
https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/n84wzh/why_do_people_s...
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Neither of those issues describe any telemetry, unless you define "telemetry" as "uses any internet connectivity that's not even to Microsoft's servers".
Is the default npm registry not operated by Microsoft? GitHub definitely is, and that was one of the pings.
There are basically no details at all other than "I saw it did something with the network, therefore telemetry!"
What I find truly bizarre is how many software engineers, who are aware of how much they earn and how long it really takes to make software, are so resistant to paying anything for tools that make their job easier and faster. It blows my mind. Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of…
> but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way That's just not true. I have access to the full Jetbrains suite for free, yet I still opt to use Neovim or VS Code/Codium for most languages. Jetbrains IDEs are great in many ways, but are objectively worse on several metrics: * slow startup times * slow initial operations until the JIT is warmed up * even once warm, you always eventually…
Yes, there are possibly more plugins for VS Code, but they are largely shit, aren't they?
Yes, LS has made it possible to create rudimentary editing capabilities for languages that always lacked them, and that is unironically a good thing. But for bigger/established languages VS Code provides maybe 10% of functionality that Jetbrains IDEs provide.
> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. This is actually great news. Some extensions, especially language ones, are very poor, and paying for them (if someone makes a commercial version) is the only way to guarantee a good development experience. Ruby is an example, and swit…
You're still missing "Most directly, the thing you do is theft."
I think the past 46 years have proved, that free software works, no matter how many Bills want (or will) get rich off the industry. If there were no hobbyists either literally stealing software, or indirectly "stealing" it, because it's free, there would be no industry to profit from.
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It definitely has a relationship with quality in a fair number of domains. Find me free CAD software as good as SOLIDWORKS, or free maths software as good as MATLAB & Mathematica, or free EDA software as good as Altium or Vivado. There are loads of domains where none of the free options are very good.
I agree with you for the most part, I write this while running Matlab simulations in the background. Having tried to reach similar levels of productivity with Julia or Python, I find the FOSS environments always fall short in the tooling environment. Not to mention the importance of documentation. However, I can't help but take exception to Vivado and SOLIDWORKS being good software... While powerful, they are both in…
> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. This is actually great news. Some extensions, especially language ones, are very poor, and paying for them (if someone makes a commercial version) is the only way to guarantee a good development experience. Ruby is an example, and swit…
So, "I'm a professional developer, but I don't like other programmers getting paid for their extensions (that I do, nonetheless, find valuable, and want to use)"?
> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. This is actually great news. Some extensions, especially language ones, are very poor, and paying for them (if someone makes a commercial version) is the only way to guarantee a good development experience. Ruby is an example, and swit…
Paying for software does not have a relationship with quality. Imagine if GCC had a "pro" version that was necessary to compile certain code. That would be devastating to those learning and thousands of devs that came before would be spinning in their graves. The reason we do open source and free software is to make life easier for everyone, including your job. It standardizes practices and prevents mudball codebases…
I'm taking "paying for software" here to mean "commercial" vs "open source", or "incoming money oriented" vs "community building oriented" development.
Since, of course, you can also pay for open source, and there are free editions of proprietary commercial software, and foss can be sponsored by a big company who pays for 99% of the developer time through selling something else - so a distinction based on "paying" alone is not useful.
So, does open source/free vs proprietary/commercial make any difference with regards to quality?
It might not make in abstract, across the whole market, but in certain aspects and markets it does.
No open source DAW (audio/midi editor) or NLE (video editor) is even close to commercial ones, for example.
If you plotted features, maturity, stability, performance, etc. for foss and commercial versions of this types of product, you'd see a clear clustering of proprietary commercial software where you pay a lot for and free foss ones.
The same is true for many pro fields.