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Re: Religious Discrimination at Google

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Post by morelisp »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #72

>If you start talking about your religious beliefs at a social event people treat you like you just farted in their face. They frequently will scrunch up their faces and might ask a question like “Do you REALLY believe all that stuff?” When you tell them that you do they might even go so far as to say “Sorry that’s just not the kind of thing I associate with someone as smart as yourself.” If you start talking about r…

> If you start talking about religion at a corporate gathering then you may be infringing on the rights of the people you are talking to.

Unless your "corporation" is actually a government institution, no person's rights are being violated. At most you're generating a lot of evidence for unfair dismissal/treatment lawsuits.

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Post by cloverich »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #218
Renaud wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s quite baffling to me that people would start talking about religion at social events that are not related to religion in the first place. To me, one of the basic rules of social etiquette is never talk about religion or politics unless you’re amongst people who share your views or it’s a specific religious or political gathering. If I’m attending a social function, I certainly don’t want to hear about your relig…

> To me, one of the basic rules of social etiquette is never talk about religion or politics unless you’re amongst people who share your views or it’s a specific religious or political gathering. This to me is destroying social debate. How can one grow without believes being challenged? - I don't want to live in my bubble of self-confirmation. I want my believes to be challenged with good arguments and improve my thi…

You are in good company here on HN but in general this is not how people work. Specifically re religion and politics, the reason it is a common adage to not discuss them in social settings is because people rarely engage rationally in those topics. For whatever reason, it triggers people's emotional reactions deeply and quickly. When people's emotions are involved rational discussion departs quickly, and (positive, negative) feelings linger.

Re: Religious Discrimination at Google

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Post by Tomte »

0xy wrote: post #220
Tomte wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He goes even further. "My superiors said clearly discriminatory things, but I won't tell you what. I will tell you some other words which I believe they truly wanted to say — but didn't — and look how awful those invented utterances are. No, I really won't tell what they actually said."

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Your reply has nothing to do with the point I made.

I wrote nothing about the "believe" stuff, I wrote about his willful paraphrasing of what others said where he outright admits that it's his interpretation of what they meant but never really said.

Please wage your generic outrage war somewhere else.

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Post by synu »

tialaramex wrote: post #212
synu wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im sorry what are we taking about? I think I’ve gotten lost, or maybe your reply was meant for another thread?

Sorry, to me it's pretty obvious that most of these people don't really believe they were silenced when they're on TV shouting about it. But I can't prove that, so, fine, maybe they believe this, we should treat both the false belief and the lying about it the same way.

Got it, thanks!

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Post by the_only_law »

dodgerdan wrote: post #114
hackyhacky wrote: post #3

In this article, the author doesn't provide any concrete example of the religious discrimination that he's allegedly experienced, or how it's impacted him in any way. It seems that he's very eager to play the victim. A good example of his rush to victimhood is when he tells how he confronted leadership about why Google hasn't opened an engineering office in Louisiana. He seems to take the fact that Google doesn't hav…

He claims not opening an office in Louisiana is religious bias. Protecting your company and employees from legislators in southern/bible belt is just good business. They’ve a long history of passing and enforcement of unconstitutional religiously inspired laws that impact businesses.

This guy can't be serious. They have offices in GA and NC and FL. All of those are "southern bible belt" states.

Additionally, out of all the southern states, I'd probably have to put Louisiana as the least "holy".

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Post by the_only_law »

danhau wrote: post #118

This probably isn’t going to get read, but the HN comments to this post really are off putting. They show Reddit levels of naivety. Just spewing further insults and discrimination with no attempt in putting yourself in the author’s position. And enough straw to feed a horse (as someone else said the other day). I came to HN to get away from this sort of thing, but the Zeitgeist here seems to be just the same. Or is t…

So for one, if you ignore the political connotations and ignore the author's seeingly strong identity, the argument is absurd. That's going to attract some ridicule here, regardless of what they guidelines say.

Secondly, yeah I think your expecting a bit much at least from a thread like this. You can go back and look at, for example, the caste discrimination threads from recent. They aren't much better.

Re: Religious Discrimination at Google

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Post by [deleted] »

kukx wrote: post #14
hackyhacky wrote: post #3

In this article, the author doesn't provide any concrete example of the religious discrimination that he's allegedly experienced, or how it's impacted him in any way. It seems that he's very eager to play the victim. A good example of his rush to victimhood is when he tells how he confronted leadership about why Google hasn't opened an engineering office in Louisiana. He seems to take the fact that Google doesn't hav…

If you were to replace the religious belief with gender in his story would your assessment stay the same? You can use this method for example in this quote: "...VPs of research laughing in my face to HR representatives questioning my sanity based on my sincerely held religious beliefs...".

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Re: Religious Discrimination at Google

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Post by eternalban »

Renaud wrote: post #51
krisoft wrote: post #23

Quoting the most concrete example he gives: > If you start talking about your religious beliefs at a social event people treat you like you just farted in their face. They frequently will scrunch up their faces and might ask a question like “Do you REALLY believe all that stuff?” When you tell them that you do they might even go so far as to say “Sorry that’s just not the kind of thing I associate with someone as sma…

It’s quite baffling to me that people would start talking about religion at social events that are not related to religion in the first place. To me, one of the basic rules of social etiquette is never talk about religion or politics unless you’re amongst people who share your views or it’s a specific religious or political gathering. If I’m attending a social function, I certainly don’t want to hear about your relig…

> If I’m attending a social function, I certainly don’t want to hear about your religious views or political bent. Chances are slim that I would espouse compatible views and that would just make things very uncomfortable for either or both of us.

Maybe it's because I'm high but that sounds fascinating, as mr. Spock likes to say.

Why is it that knowing that another human being at a social event has a different political [or reality] view than you cause you discomfort?

p.s. and what does that phenomena foretell for viability of 'democracy'?

Re: Religious Discrimination at Google

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Post by bradlys »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #218
Renaud wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s quite baffling to me that people would start talking about religion at social events that are not related to religion in the first place. To me, one of the basic rules of social etiquette is never talk about religion or politics unless you’re amongst people who share your views or it’s a specific religious or political gathering. If I’m attending a social function, I certainly don’t want to hear about your relig…

> To me, one of the basic rules of social etiquette is never talk about religion or politics unless you’re amongst people who share your views or it’s a specific religious or political gathering. This to me is destroying social debate. How can one grow without believes being challenged? - I don't want to live in my bubble of self-confirmation. I want my believes to be challenged with good arguments and improve my thi…

Keep the debate lord behavior to online discourse. No one likes that shit in person. Debate lord is a pejorative for a reason.
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