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I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. I'm not familiar with any particularly egregious examples, but I don't find "developer wants to sell software" all that outrageous.

Gitlens is the most popular example, I guess?

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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post #7

If you're really that concerned about using propriety software why not help build the emacs or vim ecosystem instead?

I don't understand that reasoning.

Wouldn't an editor ecosystem based on Codium be as open-source as Emacs' and Vim's?

Are you referring to some difference in their specific licenses?

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

#13

> I was increasingly getting upset about their extension marketplace, where there is an increased number of extensions starting to sell pro versions of the extensions we used for free. I'm not familiar with any particularly egregious examples, but I don't find "developer wants to sell software" all that outrageous.

It’s a real problem. GitLens[0] comes to mind, which used to be a decent free extension, but now gives me flashbacks to the shareware nag screens of old.

I’m also not against selling software on principle. Downgrading a free piece of software into a demo with an auto-update feels shady, however.

[0] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=eamodio....

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

#14
post #7

If you're really that concerned about using propriety software why not help build the emacs or vim ecosystem instead?

Because some people don't necessarily want to tinker with emacs or vim for days just to get their perfect setup going

> for days

Ha!

:wq

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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post #7

If you're really that concerned about using propriety software why not help build the emacs or vim ecosystem instead?

Because some people don't necessarily want to tinker with emacs or vim for days just to get their perfect setup going

days? Surely, you jest, dear Sir. Proud emacs user for 21 years, still have to get some overlay function going just the way I like it. One of these days, I am going to get it just right.

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

#18

Luckily, contrary to what the Microsoft hoard will tell you, there are countless respectful alternatives that were around before and will be around long after Microsoft turns it into some kind of pay to win thing with achievements.

Nitpick: s/hoard/horde/g

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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post #6

Their main argument is “no telemetry” (or sometimes “no cemetery tracking”…), but VS Code has a setting to disable telemetry [0], and I would trust that it’s really disabled if you set it so (why would they lie about something quite trivial to check with Wireshark or such?) > I’m sure there is a small performance gain because you don’t have telemetry running in the background sending data to Microsoft. Have you profi…

VS Codium has tried, and not succeeded, to disable all telemetry[0][1]. This is with direct access to and patches to source code and all the knobs set to off.

If the direction of upstream is diametrically opposed to downstream, it is nearly impossible to prevent these issues.

[0] https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/623

[1] https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/631

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

#20
What I find truly bizarre is how many software engineers, who are aware of how much they earn and how long it really takes to make software, are so resistant to paying anything for tools that make their job easier and faster. It blows my mind.

Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of them are In years past I saw this same struggle with IntelliJ vs Eclipse or even vim/emacs. The amount of time I saw people spend on tuning, fixing, tinkering, debugging and otherwise modifying their .vim or .emacs files or their various incompatible Eclipse plugins (eg famously there were 2 big big plugins for Eclipse at one point and neither of them completely worked). At least with vim/emacs it works over an SSH connection but Eclipse?

Why are so many resistant so other people earning a living particularly when the payoff (ie time-saved) is so easily quantifiable? And why do people who generally earn so much value their time so little?

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