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Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Post by amelius »

Georgelemental wrote: post #257
amelius wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's unfortunate the manufacturers are in a position where such perverse anti-customer incentives exist. Why can't we have a consumer organization that protects us from having to buy stuff that we don't want. Wouldn't it be great if any product sold in mass quantities would have to pass a consumer/environment protection committee first?

No, please no committees of incompetent government stuffed shirts that raise the barrier to entry so high that only the established megacorps and their armies of lawyers can hope to compete. Instead, mandate that people must be allowed to opt-out of ads/tracking antifeatures, with private right of action so consumers don't have to rely on government agencies to enforce the standards.

> raise the barrier to entry

that's why I said "in mass quantities".

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Post by bofh23 »

I have a Samsung TV with “smart” features but only connect it to the Internet when using a streaming app. I still use cable for TV so I don’t use builtin apps often.

Most of the time the TV is set to unconfigured WiFi so it can’t reach the Internet. I temporarily switch it to Ethernet when I need Internet connectivity.

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Post by geerlingguy »

sircastor wrote: post #262
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

NEC makes a variety of high quality displays that have 0 smart features. They also tend to lack tuners, so be aware of that if you want OTA TV

In my case, even with a couple of the 'smarter' (heh) TVs I have, I use HDHomeRun, which lets me pipe antenna TV through to all my devices and TVs pretty easy (and set up a central DVR if I need to).

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Post by geerlingguy »

undersuit wrote: post #93

What about getting a smart TV that respects you, because you paid a premium. I have a Sharp/NEC c651q. The Raspberry Pi 3 Compute Module in it lets me watch media on the internet(newer models will accept the RPi4 CM). It has no integration with Netflix, Amazon, Apple, etc.

I just reviewed a newer model (MA551-MPi4E) with the CM4, and it is a breath of fresh air after a couple app-ridden ones I've used in the past 5 years.

My review is on my website (link in profile), or on my YouTube channel.

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Post by geerlingguy »

richardfey wrote: post #20
worldmerge wrote: post #6

Jeff Geerling just did a video on a commercial tv that even has a pi in it. Maybe look into digital signage stuff or even a large computer monitor or projector.

This one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-epPf7D8oMk Note: Sharp paid him for this

Technically, they didn't pay... but they did send the display, speakers, stand, and Pi kit for review (I'm going to be integrating it into a new studio build—if I can get that to happen!).

A silly distinction in some ways, but a distinction nonetheless. I explain how I accept different types of sponsorship / review samples in my youtube repo: https://github.com/geerlingguy/youtube#paid-videos--product-...

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Post by frob »

JellyBeanThief wrote: post #313
JonathonW wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That model has a logo on the stand. It's pretty small, but logos are generally fairly small on almost any current TV (since thin bezels are in style, which doesn't leave much room for a logo).

Have you considered concealing the logos? I ask because I haven't and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of someone who has. I imagine there could be lots of ways to conceal logos attractively if know-how and slightly greater effort is on the table.

Matte black nail polish ought to do the trick

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Post by balfirevic »

matthewmcg wrote: post #308

If your budget permits, I recommend getting an LG OLED in your desired size and a good AV receiver. Connect your preferred streaming box (we like the AppleTV) to the receiver and use the streaming box remote to control everything. We have this setup and the LG has never been connected to the internet and its remote went back in the box after initial calibration and setup.

What purpose does AV receiver have here? Can't you connect Apple TV directly to the TV?

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

pzmarzly wrote: post #243
ffggvv wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

monitors dont have tv channels or hook ups for a lot of peoples cable boxes usually dont have the best (if ant) speakers or a remote either

Lack of TV antenna input can be a good thing if you live in a country that collects extra taxes for having a TV, like Austria, Ireland or Poland, as your screen is not a TV by law. IMHO there isn't much value in TV channels nowadays anyway.

Lucky, them. In Germany every household has to pay it, because of "new media",

meaning regardless of the (non)existence of classical TV, radio,

there is probably internet, smartphone, some means to consume public tv and radio,

so f---ing PAY! Even if one can't stand that sh-t at all,

and ignores it since 1996 :-)

Meanwhile the president of France promised to get rid of it this year, probably this fall.

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