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Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
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#312https://swedx.se has Digital Sinage products without Smart features - or tuner. Add what you need only. Also comes with touch.
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Thin bevel TVs don't have space for the logo. For example https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-oled65c1pub-oled-4k-tv
That model has a logo on the stand. It's pretty small, but logos are generally fairly small on almost any current TV (since thin bezels are in style, which doesn't leave much room for a logo).
Have you considered concealing the logos? I ask because I haven't and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of someone who has. I imagine there could be lots of ways to conceal logos attractively if know-how and slightly greater effort is on the table.
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#314I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)
make sure you don't use a Roku to make your TV "smart", because it is phoning home constantly 24/7, especially when you're interacting with the remote or anything in the OS. If it can't phone home for a while and it's aggressively blocked, the OS will interfere with other apps, preventing them from running until the Roku stick can phone home.
Amazon FireTV also phones home quite a bit , but since it runs android you can sideload a firewall like Netguard to try and contain some of the telemetry and usage data being siphoned off the device
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Lack of TV antenna input can be a good thing if you live in a country that collects extra taxes for having a TV, like Austria, Ireland or Poland, as your screen is not a TV by law. IMHO there isn't much value in TV channels nowadays anyway.
I lived in the UK in the 80's and remember they had TV ads that showed a SWAT team stacking up and then bursting into an apartment, grabbing a guy watching TV on his couch, throwing him on the floor and handcuffing him and then a big banner: "PAY YOUR TV LICENSE FEES. NOT DOING SO IS A CRIME." If you've never heard of such a thing: https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence
That sounds horrifically dystopian.
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#316You and I suspect half the country. During the 90s I remember there was this big fuss when Gateway 2000 was introducing the first "smart/PC" TV to the market. Steve Jobs went on record as saying something along the lines of "Not only will it not work out, it shouldn't, because TV is the place where people head to at the end of the day to shut their brains off, not figure out even more ways to interact with tech." It…
Ah yes, THE country.
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Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
#317You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...
Is there a proper term or category for a monitor meant for high end installations that has no branding on it (e.g., as one would put into a display at a museum)? I refuse to buy something with a logo on the front of it.
Digital Signage was the term when I worked in that space.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
That model has a logo on the stand. It's pretty small, but logos are generally fairly small on almost any current TV (since thin bezels are in style, which doesn't leave much room for a logo).
Have you considered concealing the logos? I ask because I haven't and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of someone who has. I imagine there could be lots of ways to conceal logos attractively if know-how and slightly greater effort is on the table.
It's quite common for people to put stickers over the logo in their MacBooks, I've done it on one of my work machines.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
That model has a logo on the stand. It's pretty small, but logos are generally fairly small on almost any current TV (since thin bezels are in style, which doesn't leave much room for a logo).
Have you considered concealing the logos? I ask because I haven't and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of someone who has. I imagine there could be lots of ways to conceal logos attractively if know-how and slightly greater effort is on the table.
A bit of black electrical tape, carefully applied, is pretty discreet on a typical black casing
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#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
I lived in the UK in the 80's and remember they had TV ads that showed a SWAT team stacking up and then bursting into an apartment, grabbing a guy watching TV on his couch, throwing him on the floor and handcuffing him and then a big banner: "PAY YOUR TV LICENSE FEES. NOT DOING SO IS A CRIME." If you've never heard of such a thing: https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence
That sounds horrifically dystopian.
As a non-brit, I found the concept of TV detector vans[0] to be pretty incredible.