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Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Post by bananamerica »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #251
bananamerica wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Post by clairity »

madeofpalk wrote: post #270
clairity wrote: post #229

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> "...GoogleTV..." > "* Protects your privacy" these two things are at complete odds. appletv is only marginally better, but it is better. anything google is going to spy on you for its own benefit and those of its advertisers.

What's your end goal? Do you want to watch Netflix or Hulu or whatever on a TV? If you don't then you probably don't need any of these dongles! Just connect your TV to OTA and you're fine!

personally, i don't watch enough tv to have cable and use an appletv on a restricted vlan (no internet to the tv) to watch streaming services, but also will occasionally watch broadcast tv OTA. google is completely blocked at the firewall.

it's the least bad option right now (that still allows you to watch just about any content), not a great long-term one. as apple establishes itself more and more in the content business, i'm sure they'll eventually succumb to more invasive tracking and targeting for advertisers as well.

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Post by naikrovek »

NonNefarious wrote: post #215
mcculley wrote: post #212

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Is there a proper term or category for a monitor meant for high end installations that has no branding on it (e.g., as one would put into a display at a museum)? I refuse to buy something with a logo on the front of it.

I got a projector. No "smart" bullshit, branding issues, or other obnoxiousness.

congratulations.

a projector won't work for everyone.

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Post by EastSmith »

metadat wrote: post #25
jitl wrote: post #4

I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)

+1, this is great advice. I've been doing the same; get an AppleTV or GoogleTV dongle and never, ever attach the LG or Samshung TV to the network. Benefits of this strategy: * So simple, even non-savvy folks can follow the rule * Protects your privacy * Eliminates an unnecessary, highly invasive, and parasitic advertising vector (ads directly from LG or Samsung) * Protects your TV performance and functionality from s…

I just added an old laptop behind the tv. I ripped everything from the laptop - screen, keyboard, fan - everything. What is left is the MB + SSD and USB port where I've added wi-fi and wireless keyboard usb. Also bought some oversized radiator and put it on the processor so I am fanless now.

The thing gets warm only when you play 4k youtube video.

And now you have to deal with windows privacy :)

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Post by eli »

mcculley wrote: post #212
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Is there a proper term or category for a monitor meant for high end installations that has no branding on it (e.g., as one would put into a display at a museum)? I refuse to buy something with a logo on the front of it.

"Commercial Grade" - expect them to cost more. They also, in theory, are built to last longer.

E.g. https://www.newegg.com/Commercial-TVs/SubCategory/ID-3672

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Post by dionidium »

MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Not the OP, but I would also like to buy a non-smart TV and, no, a monitor is not what I want. A television has a TV tuner.

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Post by philistine »

lyrrad wrote: post #97
somehnacct3757 wrote: post #73

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If you go this route, you will want to stick to older technology for audio and content peripherals. Otherwise you will have to connect it to the internet for bugfixes. For example, imagine you want to keep a smart TV offline but you also want the latest greatest eARC features over HDMI 2.1; or you want that new Dolby tech to work with your PlayStation 5. That's stuff that came out in the last couple years. Assume it…

My LG CX tv can be updated without internet by downloading the firmware file and loading it onto a USB drive. A quick search shows that at least some Samsung models have this capability as well.

Any TV with a USB port and Roku TV as its firmware should be updatable without going online.

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Post by Grazester »

anonymousab wrote: post #206
Grazester wrote: post #28

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One would think this would have been more obvious.

> One would think this would have been more obvious. Devices can refuse to function without a network connection, and the profits to be made from simply including a cellular connection of some sort for ad refresh + tracking are too high to be ignored forever. So this isn't a reliable, long-term solution.

These are all hypothetical situations.

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Post by cyanydeez »

dionidium wrote: post #286
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Not the OP, but I would also like to buy a non-smart TV and, no, a monitor is not what I want. A television has a TV tuner.

One can purchase tuners.

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Post by atlgator »

dionidium wrote: post #286
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Not the OP, but I would also like to buy a non-smart TV and, no, a monitor is not what I want. A television has a TV tuner.

You planning to run off a HD antenna? That’s the only reason for a TV tuner.
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