In the US, Best Buy still sells a few decent non-smart TVs under their Insignia store brand, for example: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-43-class-n10-series-le...
Only if you don't care about picture quality.
Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
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#262You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...
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#263I mainly use it for Plex and my Xbox, everything works really well for those purposes, so I appreciate LG at-least giving me the option to not use all of its "smart" features.
--edit-- I am using this TV in B.C Canada.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
If true, this is an excellent chance for white hat flooding. Knock, and keep that ip offline. With no way to change locationation(DNS), their little ad sceme won't work. Even better if it makes companies shy about using such methods.
> white hat flooding Very curious definition of “white hat” you have
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#265It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission. Smarts in smart TV might cost $25 per unit, but OEMs get paid for streaming service placements on remote / home screen and a cut of revenue if users sign up. Even without streaming functionality, TV would still need some smarts to display tuner/inputs/settings UI and it's cheaper to develop Android apps than go custom route. P…
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
A white hat works for the public good, yes?
traditionally, white hat means working with companies to help identify weaknesses in their systems, and getting inside with their consent.
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#267Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
#268You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...
I bought a TV for a monitor. 55" 4K curved Samsung a few years ago for about $600. It went down in price and is probably discontinued now because curved TVs are stupid. Never connected it to the internet, so it's not too smart.
Also, a real "monitor" doesn't come with a TV tuner and this did.
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> making sure ALL TVs insist on spending over a half hour pushing buttons before people can sit down to watch something and relax Is there any TV that’s even within an order of magnitude of this HN-tech-bro-I-own-my-device nightmare fantasy?
I believe so – there's this little-known, oldie-but-goodie brand called, "Torrents+External Drive®" in the West, and China has their own approach to "I can't even anymore" called "TikTok" ... perfect for just sitting down for a while and just watching shit instead of rolling out a project management spreadsheet to figure out what to watch and how to set things up so you can actually watch it.
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+1, this is great advice. I've been doing the same; get an AppleTV or GoogleTV dongle and never, ever attach the LG or Samshung TV to the network. Benefits of this strategy: * So simple, even non-savvy folks can follow the rule * Protects your privacy * Eliminates an unnecessary, highly invasive, and parasitic advertising vector (ads directly from LG or Samsung) * Protects your TV performance and functionality from s…
> "...GoogleTV..." > "* Protects your privacy" these two things are at complete odds. appletv is only marginally better, but it is better. anything google is going to spy on you for its own benefit and those of its advertisers.
If you don't then you probably don't need any of these dongles! Just connect your TV to OTA and you're fine!