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Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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In the US, Best Buy still sells a few decent non-smart TVs under their Insignia store brand, for example: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-43-class-n10-series-le...

Only if you don't care about picture quality.

Insignia panels are usually previous year Samsung or other high end panels. They're excellent.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

NEC makes a variety of high quality displays that have 0 smart features. They also tend to lack tuners, so be aware of that if you want OTA TV

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Bought a LG C1 last year, every-time I got the option to say "NO" to any agreement I said no. So far I haven't seen a single advert in the past year. The voice commands don't work. But who really wants to talk to their tv lol.

I mainly use it for Plex and my Xbox, everything works really well for those purposes, so I appreciate LG at-least giving me the option to not use all of its "smart" features.

--edit-- I am using this TV in B.C Canada.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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If true, this is an excellent chance for white hat flooding. Knock, and keep that ip offline. With no way to change locationation(DNS), their little ad sceme won't work. Even better if it makes companies shy about using such methods.

> white hat flooding Very curious definition of “white hat” you have

This would be what I term “green hat”, gray with a flavor of robbing the rich to feed the poor.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission. Smarts in smart TV might cost $25 per unit, but OEMs get paid for streaming service placements on remote / home screen and a cut of revenue if users sign up. Even without streaming functionality, TV would still need some smarts to display tuner/inputs/settings UI and it's cheaper to develop Android apps than go custom route. P…

Users would see a tv without streaming capability as defective these days. They would buy a TV and assume it has these features. Ultimately even hacker news users _want_ these features, just not the downsides that happen to come bundled in.

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A white hat works for the public good, yes?

traditionally, white hat means working with companies to help identify weaknesses in their systems, and getting inside with their consent.

That sounds like helping to secure my home network from unwanted spyware and tracking to me.

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post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

>> You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV.

I bought a TV for a monitor. 55" 4K curved Samsung a few years ago for about $600. It went down in price and is probably discontinued now because curved TVs are stupid. Never connected it to the internet, so it's not too smart.

Also, a real "monitor" doesn't come with a TV tuner and this did.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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> making sure ALL TVs insist on spending over a half hour pushing buttons before people can sit down to watch something and relax Is there any TV that’s even within an order of magnitude of this HN-tech-bro-I-own-my-device nightmare fantasy?

I believe so – there's this little-known, oldie-but-goodie brand called, "Torrents+External Drive®" in the West, and China has their own approach to "I can't even anymore" called "TikTok" ... perfect for just sitting down for a while and just watching shit instead of rolling out a project management spreadsheet to figure out what to watch and how to set things up so you can actually watch it.

These AI text generators still have a ways to go before they can fool me!

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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+1, this is great advice. I've been doing the same; get an AppleTV or GoogleTV dongle and never, ever attach the LG or Samshung TV to the network. Benefits of this strategy: * So simple, even non-savvy folks can follow the rule * Protects your privacy * Eliminates an unnecessary, highly invasive, and parasitic advertising vector (ads directly from LG or Samsung) * Protects your TV performance and functionality from s…

> "...GoogleTV..." > "* Protects your privacy" these two things are at complete odds. appletv is only marginally better, but it is better. anything google is going to spy on you for its own benefit and those of its advertisers.

What's your end goal? Do you want to watch Netflix or Hulu or whatever on a TV?

If you don't then you probably don't need any of these dongles! Just connect your TV to OTA and you're fine!

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