Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

Post by bananamerica » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 9:02 PM UTC

Brian_K_White wrote: post #100

IgorPartola wrote: post #60

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Like it or not, it is true. As reliability and performance of automatics gets better and the gas mileage is now also on par and the cost to produce an automatic is reduced by economies of scale, manual transmissions are going by way of horse and buggies. It’s not everywhere but it will be. Also consider that EVs have different requirements for their transmissions than ICE vehicles and there are no EVs with manual tra…

But a manual is fun to operate. If all you care about is transportation, take the bus. You have confused personal preference with universal truth. And aside from that, the difference is complexity and reliability is still a fact. "Like it or not"

Post by cat_plus_plus » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #80

cat_plus_plus wrote: post #35

It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission. Smarts in smart TV might cost $25 per unit, but OEMs get paid for streaming service placements on remote / home screen and a cut of revenue if users sign up. Even without streaming functionality, TV would still need some smarts to display tuner/inputs/settings UI and it's cheaper to develop Android apps than go custom route. P…

> It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission. Smart TVs don't make sense when televisions both have inputs, and there exist multiple off the shelf solutions like chromecast, appletv, roku, etc. (I'm lame, I just use an Intel NUC with a full operating system.) Smart TVs are TV/VCR combos at best, and at worst a vector for your network to be attacked after the company mov…

Post by Koshkin » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 9:04 PM UTC

ajaimk wrote: post #62

GekkePrutser wrote: post #38

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> (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still) Wow you get ads even when you never connected it to the internet? That's really user hostile design. If I get a tv it'll be LG anyway because they do real OLED, not that Qled stuff that Samsung does.

Sadly, Samsung is leapfrogging LG with QD OLED :-( Which is going to be better technology (brighter colors with OLED blacks) Owner of 2 LG OLEDs

Post by monkeybutton » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

bradknowles wrote: post #98

GekkePrutser wrote: post #45

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> Just don't ever give it the wifi password This works for now but Amazon is already working on a way to share messages from devices through echo dots etc in the area. Even your neighbors'. It's intended precisely for this purpose :( To capture days from those trying to stay under the radar. It's called sidewalk.

They're going to get more aggressive about putting LTE/5G SIMs into the devices, maybe as eSIMs. That will make it a lot harder to disable their remote monitoring functions.

Post by Koshkin » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 9:09 PM UTC

teirce wrote: post #134

cma wrote: post #133

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The AppleTV he recommended to use in its place has ads too I believe, through sponsored app placements.

What a nit. > AppleTV or similar Pick your poison. Doesn't have to be Apple TV, you could use anything from a Roku to a kodi stick to plugging a computer into the TV and playing things locally. What you're criticizing isn't the point.