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Enormous ‘rogue waves’ can appear out of nowhere

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I wager the same process of discovery is about to happen for UFOs. As sensors become more capable we will see more and more hard data. This will move the needle on scientific opinion and that in turn will spur research. The two phenomena may even be related - rogue waves in the fields of QFT...

Why is this being downvoted?

> Scientific doubts about these mysterious, giant waves were not completely dispelled until 1995, when a rogue wave hit the Draupner oil rig, a natural gas platform in the North Sea off the coast of Norway.

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The worst part of trying to read articles being published by very legitimate orgs like National Geographic are the mobile website decisions they allow their product teams to make. In this case, just as I'm getting into the first few paragraphs of the paper some popup or override kicks in. Usually asking for a signup. I think it's time to stop this destructive practice of attention grabbing instead of READING THE ARTI…

I've mostly stopped reading websites on mobile because of this. On desktop I have various plugins and scripts in place to get rid of most of the annoyances. It's not only subscription popups these days, there are also the goddamn GDPR popups (which don't even apply to me), Intercom popups, and ads of sorts that pop up separately from the newsletter signup. Very often within a few seconds these mobile websites have 80…

Firefox mobile allows uBlock and noscript extensions.

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Highly recommend “The Wave,” by Susan Casey, a nonfiction book that covers research into open ocean rogue waves, and also surfers attempting to predict and ride the largest breaking waves.

Looks like for surf there is a new record: https://youtu.be/zOYL15QOvWE

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Paste in console to read the article document.querySelector('.Modal').remove(); document.querySelector('body').style.position=''; document.querySelector('body').style.overflowY='';

I was wondering the other day, is there a generic "article-munging" firefox addon? Maybe you'd make rules per site how to make it readable. For example enable reader view automatically on some domains, pass some domains through 12ft.io (paywall remover) automatically and so on :)

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Highly recommend “The Wave,” by Susan Casey, a nonfiction book that covers research into open ocean rogue waves, and also surfers attempting to predict and ride the largest breaking waves.

Also The Perfect Storm in which the author discusses rogue waves and contemplates that one took down the Andrea Gail.

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This article is hard to read, like most media outlets these days. Why do they run so many scripts, that call other scripts, that call other scripts...? Here's the nutshell anyway, via Firefox + NoScript + Ublock Origin and selectively blocking certain elements:

> "Scientists have since figured out that unlike tsunamis, which are large waves produced by a sudden displacement of water from an event such as an earthquake or landslide, rogue waves form due to a chance combination of wave movements through the ocean."

> "Two main mathematical theories have emerged to explain the wave movements that spawn rogue waves: Linear addition and nonlinear focusing. Linear addition assumes that waves travel through the ocean at different speeds, and when they overlap, they can strengthen into a rogue wave. Nonlinear focusing assumes waves travel in groups and can lend energy to one another, which sometimes spawns a rogue wave."

> "One reason for the uncertainty is that rogue waves are rare. Even now, there’s a dearth of quality tracking data."

For those not at sea in a boat, but walking along a coastline, the practical thing to keep in mind is that just because the ground is dry, doesn't mean a sneaker wave can't come along once an hour, so be careful and keep your eyes on the ocean.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are also open source tide and wave models, which is what researchers use and are fairly accurate. Not sure how much this commercial product differs, but I know the Navy etc. use the open source ones with in house adjustments.

Sure, but tide and wave models generally cover a much larger area, such as whole coastal area's and over larger time spans. An example of such a model would be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN6CDaoMZ7U In the Netherlands this is used e.g. to determine when to close the storm surge barriers to protect the river delta area from flooding due to a tide+storm combination. In contrast, the Next Ocean product is meant to…

I wonder to what extent all the mathematical modeling can be replaced by modern run-of-the-mill data science techniques.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've mostly stopped reading websites on mobile because of this. On desktop I have various plugins and scripts in place to get rid of most of the annoyances. It's not only subscription popups these days, there are also the goddamn GDPR popups (which don't even apply to me), Intercom popups, and ads of sorts that pop up separately from the newsletter signup. Very often within a few seconds these mobile websites have 80…

Firefox mobile allows uBlock and noscript extensions.

I refuse to do actual browsing without NoScript in place. No ads, no popups, nothing.

Well, sometimes there's literally nothing, because SPA, but most of time it's just some kind of cover or body opacity set to 0. Totally worth the tradeoff on desktop and mobile. No ads, man. No fucking ads

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