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Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by pishpash »

rgovostes wrote: post #93

I got an M1 MacBook Pro from work last year, and expecting to pay the price for being an early adopter, I set up my previous Intel-based MBP nearby in case I ran into any problems or needed to run one of my existing virtual machines. (I do varied development projects ranging from compiling kernels to building web frontends.) In reality I have hardly turned on the Intel MBP at all since I got it. At all. Docker and VM…

What's also nice is iPhone/iPad ARM apps can run as desktop apps on M1, so when there was no native desktop app replacement sometimes there was that other native app.

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by nicoburns »

bredren wrote: post #53

I’m working on re-factoring a developer environment from using vagrant/virtualbox and docker to only docker. The prior goal was to mock production as closely as possible. The realization is that macos as a host machine for orchestration is close enough to build. More strict validation can be done in CI and a staging env. So for this project, the forced transition away from virtualbox Has actually led to simplificatio…

We go one step further and don’t use Docker either!

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by viraptor »

It wasn't clear from the post, but do you work with things that actually depend on the architecture a lot? I'm dealing with the opposite (still on x86, applications get deployed on arm) and the answer was: pretend it isn't happening. If there are obvious issues, they'll be caught by the CI which is running the target architecture. If there are non obvious problems, I can spin up a vm in AWS immediately.

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by eslaught »

rgovostes wrote: post #93

I got an M1 MacBook Pro from work last year, and expecting to pay the price for being an early adopter, I set up my previous Intel-based MBP nearby in case I ran into any problems or needed to run one of my existing virtual machines. (I do varied development projects ranging from compiling kernels to building web frontends.) In reality I have hardly turned on the Intel MBP at all since I got it. At all. Docker and VM…

Are there more details on "docker buildx build" that you can point us to? The command line reference doesn't seem especially helpful: https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/commandline/buildx_...

E.g. if I wanted to start building ARM binaries on a x86 host, is that the sort of thing this would enable?

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by ab-dm »

Recently got an M1 Mac, I couldn’t be happier. I use it all day every day for dev (ruby, node, react)

Everything was far easier than I expected it to be, the only issues I had was with installing python (a few cli Utils required it) but everything else has been smooth sailing and a much better experience than running things on my 2019 MBP

I’m not a huge docker user, but I run it for a few things and again, it was all smooth sailing.

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by frampytown »

anotheracctfo wrote: post #96

Oracle sucks. I mean in general, but they have also not released ARM instantclient or even an ARM version of Java. I think its crazy that I'm using Microsoft's version of ARM java. I'm also using Windows 11 ARM in Parallels, which does seamless emulation of Oracle instantclient / Java / PL/SQL Developer. So most of my workflow has not been interrupted. Still, just another excuse to move to a better database. Now all…

> but they have also not released ARM instantclient or even an ARM version of Java

Java has been available on ARM since the days of Nokia phone dominance. Not sure what you're referring to?

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by philistine »

dev_tty01 wrote: post #64
mdp2021 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> highly performant Last thing I read, 70% of the native performance was shown by running GeekBench through Rosetta (with a few odd results noted). If somebody has better info... Edit: I see that Nov 2020 checks returned an 80% performance, and there was discussion on HN at (at least) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25105597

Here are my numbers for the original M1 (not Pro or Max) soon after release: ARM Geekbench single core on M1 MacOS is 1734. ARM Geekbench single core on WinARM in VM on M1 is 1550. x86 single core on i9 MB Pro MacOS is 1138. x86 in emulation on M1 MacOS is 1254. Yes, 72% x86 Rosetta vs. M1 Native. However, x86 Rosetta on M1 was faster than the previous i9 2019 Macbook Pro x86 native. I consider that to be performant…

When you compare with the sad-trombone sound that Windows has produced for its ARM os, it is speedy.

Re: Ask HN: How are you dealing with the M1/ARM migration?

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Post by plonk »

nojito wrote: post #85
jacquesm wrote: post #82

For now I'm ignoring it, I'm usually about two to three years behind the curve and by then the bugs have typically been ironed out. I won't be running macOS anyway, but will wait until a fully supported version of Debian is out there that uses all of the peripherals properly. They call it the bleeding edge for a reason and I see no reason to spend extra effort that isn't driven by an immediate need. I like tech, I ca…

You will be waiting far more than 3 years.

Asahi Linux has released an alpha version that supports quite a lot of features.
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