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Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Canadian here, working out of our downtown Toronto office today.

I'll meander with this reply - the topic itself has a nebulous, uncertain quality to it.

The situation is pretty bad but, as usual, it's very difficult to actually put a proper description and anecdote on some of the things that have been happening.

Reddit et al as usual have been calling for protests, and have for some time - see r/canada, r/ontario, r/canadahousing, the usual bunch. Plenty of memes there if you're in need of them for a Friday afternoon.

In truth, we have had protests throughout the pandemic for various reasons; almost no protest was covered by the media. We've had a handful of marches in Toronto, long before the "Freedom Convoy" scare which was, as far as I could tell talking to friends who live/work in Ottawa downtown, a fabrication by the media - which would explain why it was covered to such great degree. I don't want to turn this post into a conspiracy theory type thing, just calling it as I see it. A nothingburger that was spun for some purpose unknown to me.

Now, back to prices.

The situation is as bad as it seems, probably worse than I can tell. Those of us in tech are sort of okay; tech companies here are okay with regular salary bumps that, at the very least, offset inflation. We know we are fucked and no amount of money at the moment will really feel like it's "enough" because the inflation has made people's incomes, essentially, worthless for the time being. Even if you're well off, if you were making a million/yr before now you're making 200k/yr. Your purchasing power has fell through the ground. I feel very bad for most of the population who is not in this luxurious position (and it is luxurious, by all accounts). A few years ago we were at peak golden age, now we are slowly coming down and it's a hard crash for many people. I see a lot more homeless on the street here. These are "fresh" homeless - you can see it because their body language, over all appearance has not yet degraded.

The Bank of Canada is trying to do something to control the housing prices/inflation, however whatever they do will negatively impact the local affordability.

Not sure what the way out of it is, to be honest. But one thing is for sure, and that is that none of this is new and should not surprise people. It was quite obvious that a "wave" of massively increased housing prices was moving from West to East Canada over the last decade; and with it, everything else followed.

I've always felt bad for people here for awhile now because it's been a train wreck in slow motion, and I don't want to see the local population of people who at the very least keep the culture going - all the small shops, the flower shops, the barista/coffee/tea shops, the random used book stores, the impromptu concert events that happen, and so on be displaced and removed from the city they know and contribute to. My perennial question is always, "How can they afford to live where they work, with prices like these?" Putin/Russia didn't cause this, and people blaming the inflationary boogeyman on the bombing of some Ukranian village that the Western world can't even agree on how to spell/pronounce, is not the reason.

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Saw a video on Reddit where some MP brings this up and the other MPs laugh and ridicule him :(

They were laughing at his proposal [1], which seems like it would increase inflation in the same way that stimulus checks and rock-bottom interest rates did - by giving people cheap/free money. Jagmeet Singh likes to characterize businesses as blood sucking institutions making money hand over fist. But competition in a healthy market makes it so that you can't just increase profit margins, because a competitor will e…

A great article on this subject: https://palladiummag.com/2019/09/19/how-not-to-build-a-count...

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Is the money printing catching up to us? I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture. All due to the easy money for these sexy sectors. For a long time.

> I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture.

Any reason the government allocated it to those endeavors?

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Not being Canadian and having never lived there, I apologize for my ignorance. (I have been there several times, and not just Toronto & Montreal & Vancouver, either.) I'll refrain from any mentions of hockey, poutine, eh, or Gordon Lightfoot. Canada strikes me as more than ripe for a split. Quebec goes one way, Ontario another, Manitoba - Saskatchewan - Alberta another, BC a fourth, and I don't know about the other p…

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Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our country’s finance minister was asked about the high price of onions - a key staple in the Indian diet - and she quipped that she doesn’t care because she doesn’t eat onions. Our rulers are cruel, intentionally so.

Are onions considered vegan in India ? Is it a caste-based dietary restriction?

Onions are vegan. The definition of the word "vegan" doesn't change depending on what country you're from.

There are religions within India that don't eat onion (Jainism come to mind).

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Not being Canadian and having never lived there, I apologize for my ignorance. (I have been there several times, and not just Toronto & Montreal & Vancouver, either.) I'll refrain from any mentions of hockey, poutine, eh, or Gordon Lightfoot. Canada strikes me as more than ripe for a split. Quebec goes one way, Ontario another, Manitoba - Saskatchewan - Alberta another, BC a fourth, and I don't know about the other p…

My understanding is that Quebec gets paid to stay. Else they would already be out. Didn't they actually vote for an independentist leader at the federal (house of rep) level?

Maybe in the past... but that's a bit of a ridiculous idea now. Nobody is seriously considering Quebec forming their own country, even if Truedeau suddenly starts being pro-oil and anti-French

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Is the money printing catching up to us? I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture. All due to the easy money for these sexy sectors. For a long time.

> I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture. Any reason the government allocated it to those endeavors?

Dunno. Buying houseloan bounds prints money for real estate which central banks do. I got no explaination for the others other than a hunch that money ends up there.

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Canadian here, working out of our downtown Toronto office today. I'll meander with this reply - the topic itself has a nebulous, uncertain quality to it. The situation is pretty bad but, as usual, it's very difficult to actually put a proper description and anecdote on some of the things that have been happening. Reddit et al as usual have been calling for protests, and have for some time - see r/canada, r/ontario, r…

> the "Freedom Convoy" scare which was, as far as I could tell talking to friends who live/work in Ottawa downtown, a fabrication by the media - which would explain why it was covered to such great degree. I don't want to turn this post into a conspiracy theory type thing, just calling it as I see it. A nothingburger that was spun for some purpose unknown to me.

It's pretty obvious why the state sponsored medias would try to manufacture a panic, considering not long after the state decided it could just ignore the constitution to curb said panic. Sounds a lot like what they did back in the 70's...

> Not sure what the way out of it is, to be honest. But one thing is for sure, and that is that none of this is new and should not surprise people. It was quite obvious that a "wave" of massively increased housing prices was moving from West to East Canada over the last decade; and with it, everything else followed.

Aren't immigration quotas in Canada 10x per capita what they are in the US?

Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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Canadian here, working out of our downtown Toronto office today. I'll meander with this reply - the topic itself has a nebulous, uncertain quality to it. The situation is pretty bad but, as usual, it's very difficult to actually put a proper description and anecdote on some of the things that have been happening. Reddit et al as usual have been calling for protests, and have for some time - see r/canada, r/ontario, r…

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Re: Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The prairie provinces are more similar to the midwest—culturally and geographically—than they are to the rest of Canada. It would be a huge economic boon for them to just succeed to the US. Without the prairies the rest of Canada loses its breadbasket and primary revenue stream (oil), which would not bode well for Canadian unity, especially since Quebec already almost split off from the rest of the country.

> The prairie provinces are more similar to the midwest—culturally and geographically—than they are to the rest of Canada. It would be a huge economic boon for them to just succeed to the US. Wasn't that talked about in the 90s or something (maybe as a reaction to the idea of Quebec independence)? My recollection was the idea fizzled because any transition period would be longer than those provinces expected (it also…

It's generally been on the fringe of provincial politics, but the idea has been getting more attention from the Western provinces after years of being let down by the federal government. Peter Zeihan wrote a thoughtful analysis of it in in his excellent book The Accidental Superpower.
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