After living in SF for 7-8 years and seeing a serious decline in quality of life for residents there, I wouldn’t be real excited about the tech industry spreading out to one of these new regions if I happened to live there.
The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great website! thanks a lot for that. This seems to confirm my intuition. Our parameters spit out southern california and a few places in Texas, including Austin. SoCal is still incredibly expensive. I considered Austin before but I'm a bit concerned about politics. Although I know it's a bit of a progressive bubble, Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag.
> Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag. Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat, Republicans just squeeze wins. Also keep in mind that Texas Democrats are not like national Democrats, and I'd hardly call Austin something like "progressive". It marches to its own tune, which is just fine for Texas.
In Presidential elections, since 1976, the range is 37.1% to 51.1% with 46.5% in 2020 the highest since the 51.1% which was in 1976. The median in that time period has been 41.4%.
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#123This year we finally moved to the US after 2 years of Covid-induced delays. We moved to Seattle because it's where my team is based. I'm far from impressed. The housing market is so inaccessible that we had to rent a house about 1 hour commute from the office. I have hardly visited the offices a handful of times since we moved, and every time there is maybe 1 or 2 people there. Also this spring seems to be one of the…
I've lived all over the west coast my entire life but moved to the Dallas area (a place I'd never been to) somewhat recently. We're incredibly happy. The schools are outstanding, I've never seen a single homeless person in our town, and the crime rate is nonexistent. We bought a 4000sqft palace for half of what our last house cost. Cost of living generally is far lower. There is virtually never any traffic. People we…
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've lived all over the west coast my entire life but moved to the Dallas area (a place I'd never been to) somewhat recently. We're incredibly happy. The schools are outstanding, I've never seen a single homeless person in our town, and the crime rate is nonexistent. We bought a 4000sqft palace for half of what our last house cost. Cost of living generally is far lower. There is virtually never any traffic. People we…
> I would never recommend visiting Dallas, it's a dull city, but as far as places to live it's far surpassed my expectations. I think this point is key. When your day-to-day is spent staring at a laptop, it doesn't really matter where you live. I used to live in NYC. I loved it; great city to be in your 20s. But I left due to COVID. Since then, I've returned to visit a handful of times and realized that visiting NYC…
I'm well into my 30's with a family now though and those more "dynamic" environments would just cause a lot of problems in my life.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
God only knows why we still have net immigration. I guess despite the way minorities and lower classes are "oppressed" we're still better than everywhere else somehow?
Don't know about others, but I can tell you my reasons: a) Higher salary b) Better career opportunities c) An idealized view of the American society a) is easiest. I more than doubled my income by moving here. If I jumped companies (I can't due to visa) I could easily expect a 50%-100% bump. That's nothing to scoff at. Even accounting for increased cost of living, we are talking about life changing amounts of money.…
Source on this? Preferably with respect to inflation.
>and with mostly remote workforces career opportunities are better distributed
I think you're overestimating the effects of this. Companies are already making a fuss about remote work in the same time zone, let alone 4-6 time zones apart.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
ATL averages about 33% more rain than Seattle Honestly unless OP goes to California, where the housing situation is much worse, or middle of nowhere like Nevada, they're going to be much wetter (albeit in the Summer and not Winter/Spring) in most of the south
Take it from people who have lived in Seattle, it’s not the amount of rainfall. In the winter months you can literally go weeks without seeing clear skies.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag. Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat, Republicans just squeeze wins. Also keep in mind that Texas Democrats are not like national Democrats, and I'd hardly call Austin something like "progressive". It marches to its own tune, which is just fine for Texas.
> Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat In Presidential elections, since 1976, the range is 37.1% to 51.1% with 46.5% in 2020 the highest since the 51.1% which was in 1976. The median in that time period has been 41.4%.
Personally speaking, I'd go back to Texas if it stayed purple-ish and didn't adopt or drive national narratives of either party.
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I've lived all over the west coast my entire life but moved to the Dallas area (a place I'd never been to) somewhat recently. We're incredibly happy. The schools are outstanding, I've never seen a single homeless person in our town, and the crime rate is nonexistent. We bought a 4000sqft palace for half of what our last house cost. Cost of living generally is far lower. There is virtually never any traffic. People we…
The problem is that that type of lifestyle, while comfortable, is the polar opposite of what we should be doing for the next generation. Air travel, massive houses that you have to drive to, air conditioning 6 months of the year… it’s just not sustainable
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#129This is pretty interesting. There are tons of small towns throughout the western US that are nice places in their own way. Will the remote work trend cause people to move there? A few random ones the top of my head: * Baker City, Oregon: near a small ski area, mountains, sunnier and nicer than western Oregon. * Silver City, New Mexico: (very) small college town next to the national forest. Great climate because it's…
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've lived all over the west coast my entire life but moved to the Dallas area (a place I'd never been to) somewhat recently. We're incredibly happy. The schools are outstanding, I've never seen a single homeless person in our town, and the crime rate is nonexistent. We bought a 4000sqft palace for half of what our last house cost. Cost of living generally is far lower. There is virtually never any traffic. People we…
I turned down a job in Dallas 30 years ago because I felt that I wouldn't be able to do outdoor stuff, I had been there on business before this.