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Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by barbazoo »

slingnow wrote: post #165
barbazoo wrote: post #156

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What do you mean? Personally I'm trying to avoid any terms that imply that black==bad. Black people, just like other groups of people, experience discrimination and abuse and I'm mindful of that. To me it would be the same as naming something christianlist and muslimlist to denote "good" and "bad", maybe that's a better example. At the end of the day I think my approach is not making the world any worse and possible…

Except that there are no other interpretations of the words "christian" and "muslim", where it's quite clear you're referring to specific religions. Black and white are colors. _You_ are making the leap from color to ethnicity. At the end you claim you "have no problem with that", and yet you're all over this discussion proclaiming the same weak argument. Seems like you have quite a problem with it.

> Black and white are colors. _You_ are making the leap from color to ethnicity.

Except that we're not living in a hypothetical bubble but a world where white and black make many people think of skin color, I feel like it's hard to deny that at least in NA.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by infamia »

Maximus9000 wrote: post #71
gnuj3 wrote: post #22

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Kagi is even better than Google in my opinion. I’m still thinking whether I want to pay a subscription for it but it’s tempting since the results are so good. M When I first switched from Google to DDG I found myself using g! all the time as I wasnt happy with the results, especially local such as finding a specific shop in my area etc. I dont recall using g! with Kagi, and when I was bored and compared the Kagi sear…

> When I first switched from Google to DDG I found myself using g! all the time lol, I did the exact same thing! After a month of that, I just went back to Google :(. Google's results are just so damn good.

Try !s for Startpage when DDG doesn't have what you want. Startpage uses Google's index and is quite good. DDG and StartPage together give me more (and higher quality results) without Google's obnoxiously deceptive ads.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by rc_mob »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #151
MauranKilom wrote: post #18

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Huh, $10 a month is pretty steep. It's great that they offer a free plan, but that comes with all the misaligned incentives again. Any reason they don't just do pay-per-use (1 cent per query)?

As someone who prefers to search in private tabs, I was wondering why do I need to create an account, until I saw the pricing. It's an interesting conundrum, either you search anonymously with bloat and ads, or have your activity pinned to your account maybe with ads, or guaranteed without ads for $10/month. As much as it bothers me, I'd prefer to work around the first option.

they now have a browser plugin that allows search in private tabs

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by rc_mob »

oofbey wrote: post #91
Belphemur wrote: post #20

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I'd argue all Q&A services devolve into madness when they get mainstream. Before Quora we had yahoo answer and before that surely something else. As soon as they get mainstream the quality of question and answer goes down. Those systems only work with well defined constraints either on the subject of the question or the validation of the expertise of the people answering. All of those platform just open the valve wit…

Stackoverflow and it’s dozens of sigs seem fine. What do you think is the exception? Not mainstream? I’d argue it’s good community policing with a carefully Maintained incentive structure.

I love stack overflow and all but I am so sick if very old answers showing as the top result in google. no I'm not using java 6 or laravel 4 or whatever

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by rc_mob »

barbazoo wrote: post #156
IshKebab wrote: post #153

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This is such a misguided train of logic that I can't quite figure out where it's wrong. Like those maths puzzles that prove 1=0.

What do you mean? Personally I'm trying to avoid any terms that imply that black==bad. Black people, just like other groups of people, experience discrimination and abuse and I'm mindful of that. To me it would be the same as naming something christianlist and muslimlist to denote "good" and "bad", maybe that's a better example. At the end of the day I think my approach is not making the world any worse and possible…

this is pedantic as hell. if you are going to be so pedantic, then i ask you: should we be calling black people "black". that is not even close to an accurate description of their skin color.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by skilled »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #181
skilled wrote: post #33

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Absolutely crazy how such a low quality site comes up for technical queries. Speaks volumes for how smart Google algorithm is.

I wouldn't doubt many people click W3Schools results when they see them, they're not that bad, the explanation is straightforward, and it has exercises and a REPL for immediate practice. That reinforces their ranking as useful results. Conversely, I have no idea why Pinterest plagues everything. Does it manage to trick many people into clicking for a login form?

W3Schools is the prime example that Google does use site authority for its ranking approach. A lot of their content is thin one-liners that don’t explain the subject you’re looking an answer for.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by infamia »

voxl wrote: post #135
zo1 wrote: post #129

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That particular framing only has "power" if we give it. Once you open that can of worms, you will struggle to put it back. Next up we get white, yellow and red. Take all the words out there that use those and imagine what chaos and hatred it'll cause when we start trying to accommodate everyone.

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> black means evil and white means divine in popular culture, in video games, etc. Angels are white and demons are black.

It's not nearly as black and white (/pun) as you portray. Black is also symbolic of ultimate luxury and sophistication (black limo, black tux, AMEX Black Card, etc.). Nor is white universally considered a good thing either (e.g. whitewashing a bad situation).

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by ezekg »

corrral wrote: post #106
dmos62 wrote: post #58

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> It look like each query cost 1.25$ to Kagi. Correction: they're saying 80 searches cost them ~1$. >Why does Kagi cost $10/month? >Our proposed price is dictated by the fact that search has a non zero cost. With other search engines, advertisers cover this cost. But it costs us about $1 to process 80 searches. >Someone searching 8 times a day would perform about 240 searches a month, costing us $3. An average Kagi b…

How... do 80 searches cost them a dollar? That seems insanely high unless they're counting fixed costs that'll go down fast (on a per-search basis) as they get more subscribers. 8,000 searches costing a dollar, in actual resource use? OK, maybe. Still seems a little high, but maybe. 80? Are they paying someone to manually look things up for you?

I think I remember somewhere that they said a very high percentage of searches are totally unique i.e. never queried before thus not served from cache. I don't think they reword searches like Google does for a higher cache hit rate.
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