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The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving

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Re: The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving

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This year we finally moved to the US after 2 years of Covid-induced delays. We moved to Seattle because it's where my team is based. I'm far from impressed. The housing market is so inaccessible that we had to rent a house about 1 hour commute from the office. I have hardly visited the offices a handful of times since we moved, and every time there is maybe 1 or 2 people there. Also this spring seems to be one of the…

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Re: The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving

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This year we finally moved to the US after 2 years of Covid-induced delays. We moved to Seattle because it's where my team is based. I'm far from impressed. The housing market is so inaccessible that we had to rent a house about 1 hour commute from the office. I have hardly visited the offices a handful of times since we moved, and every time there is maybe 1 or 2 people there. Also this spring seems to be one of the…

The PNW has had an unusually rainy spring/early summer though, I think Seattle is usually a lot drier. The only silver lining might be fewer forest fires. In my case I've been leaning hard into remote work for about 15 years now. Mostly for quality of life/access to nature. I've made real sacrifices to make that happen, but I'm glad to see the rest of the IT world is coming around to embracing us remote devs. It's st…

Seattle weather is... polarizing... even in a more typical year. I personally find it hard to deal with so little sunshine.

Re: The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving

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It would be interesting to see what the trends are for "spreading" decentralization.

I still live near enough to San Francisco / San Jose that I can go to the office if needed once every few weeks -- but far enough away that I have a much better quality of like (Santa Cruz). I can't help but think I am not alone in that.

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This year we finally moved to the US after 2 years of Covid-induced delays. We moved to Seattle because it's where my team is based. I'm far from impressed. The housing market is so inaccessible that we had to rent a house about 1 hour commute from the office. I have hardly visited the offices a handful of times since we moved, and every time there is maybe 1 or 2 people there. Also this spring seems to be one of the…

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Person: "I don't really like it here and think I might leave"

You: "stop talking shit and just leave"

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Re: The Great Decentralization? Geographic shifts and where tech talent is moving

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Keep in mind that they're really measuring pageviews to Stackoverflow, not actual data about movement. My intuition is that it's probably right, but this is suggestive at best.

During my first years as a developer I used regularly SO. Nowadays perhaps once per month or so.

This is the correct (and massive) caveat for everything StackOverflow posts from their own data. It tells you a lot about some developers and absolutely nothing about others.

I use it a lot for my secondary languages, but when writing a well-documented language/framework like C# .NET, I never use it. The Microsoft docs cover everything.

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This year we finally moved to the US after 2 years of Covid-induced delays. We moved to Seattle because it's where my team is based. I'm far from impressed. The housing market is so inaccessible that we had to rent a house about 1 hour commute from the office. I have hardly visited the offices a handful of times since we moved, and every time there is maybe 1 or 2 people there. Also this spring seems to be one of the…

The southern states are pretty great. ATL (hometown) is getting more expensive but has a pretty decent tech scene. Also the best airport in the US (direct flights everywhere).

I've also been interested in North Carolina for a little while. Much more affordable (compared to PNW), and has some really nice areas (Asheville, Raleigh/Durham). But transportation is a bit more limited.

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The top 10 metro areas list is interesting. Philadelphia, San Antonio, Houston, San Diego and Phoenix not on there despite all 5 being in the top 10 MSA and city population, while DC, Portland, Seattle, Atlanta, Boston are on there.

I am also shocked that Portland is growing. I went to Portland this year recently, it is the worst city in the country I have been to. 90% of downtown is boarded up, city is deserted, massive homelessness crisis.

Elmira/Corning dropping is kind of interesting. Since Corning is entirely propped up by Corning Glass.

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Keep in mind that they're really measuring pageviews to Stackoverflow, not actual data about movement. My intuition is that it's probably right, but this is suggestive at best.

Isn't the SO pageview data skewed by the fact that most remote workers are on their company's VPN, hiding their true location?

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Person: "I don't really like it here and think I might leave" You: "stop talking shit and just leave" ???

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