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Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

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This reminds me of the time a university student in Australia was expelled for criticising the Chinese Government: https://www.wsj.com/articles/australian-student-critical-of-... https://twitter.com/DrewPavlou/status/1256505548314296320/ph...

He has since try his luck on the recently held 2022 general election as a new party but lost.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#33
post #26

It feels like the history is repeating itself. The people of Nazi Germany probably thought they were doing the "right thing". These Chinese students have been brainwashed enough to believe everything their government says. Or may be even paid well enough to act like that!

The brainwashed cannot know they are brainwashed. So they feeling might be in the other way: They know the truth and you are brainwashed.

I bet you and many HNer's won't be able to understand what I said. There is another saying: The new version of Nazi will be reincarnated as anti-Nazi which might or might not be true.

Human has nature cognitive defects caused by the evolution not being able to catch up the pace of changing society. It causes conflicts, war and even self destruction.

Edit/Fix:was

Human has nature cognitive defects caused by not being able to catch up the pace of evolution.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#34
Let these students keep embarrassing themselves and their country. The more people can see how the CPC thinks of others, which is exactly what these kids are expressing, the better. Shame and losing face will be the only thing that'll make the CPC change.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#35
post #21

What do you expect people to do? Abroad in a nation and culture which is quite hostile and dismissive of your own, most people would tend to be standoffish about anything that could be perceived as a slight against their home. American culture is and has been extremely biased against China, and not always with proper justification. Did anyone really expect to win over Chinese students with a harsh, aggressive, and, f…

Ah yes, the casual defense of cultural genocide based on the fact that other governments have done bad things too.

And seriously, when tf did criticizing the obviously malicious actions of a government become racist.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#37
post #33
post #26

It feels like the history is repeating itself. The people of Nazi Germany probably thought they were doing the "right thing". These Chinese students have been brainwashed enough to believe everything their government says. Or may be even paid well enough to act like that!

The brainwashed cannot know they are brainwashed. So they feeling might be in the other way: They know the truth and you are brainwashed. I bet you and many HNer's won't be able to understand what I said. There is another saying: The new version of Nazi will be reincarnated as anti-Nazi which might or might not be true. Human has nature cognitive defects caused by the evolution not being able to catch up the pace of…

Both are brainwashed.

Basically all Americans are completely incapable of sympathizing in any way with Chinese perspective. Nobody agrees with the Chinese government but at the same time basically no one is also able to explain the reasoning from the Chinese perspective.

The lack of the ability to disagree while at the same time understanding the Chinese perspective indicates a huge amount of bias.

It's very easy to see this. Literally ask the person you responded why the Chinese government acted the way they did. What motivated them? Likely he will give simpleton answers like "power corrupts" or dictatorships are evil without ever understanding the complexity of the situation.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#38
While I do sympathize with this student, you have to be careful when criticizing a hostile government you are a citizen of. Only in the United States do we have such protections in place to prevent the government from retaliating against the individual for voicing a critical opinion.

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#39
post #25

The cries of racism really ring hollow when they're talking about actions of a government, not a people or a culture.

Wait, what? So Jim Crow or Apartheid were not racist because they were promulgated by governments?

No, it's more like this:

    if you criticize certain policies of the Chinese government:
      if you are not ethnic Chinese:
        you are racist
      else:
        you are treasonous

Re: Chinese students at Cornell “taunt” Uyghur classmate

#40

While I do sympathize with this student, you have to be careful when criticizing a hostile government you are a citizen of. Only in the United States do we have such protections in place to prevent the government from retaliating against the individual for voicing a critical opinion.

> In the United States, and many other countries, we have such protections in place to prevent the government from retaliating against the individual for voicing a critical opinion. The same cannot be said for countries like China, Russia, Belarus, etc.

There, I fixed it for you. But it's also naive to think that the government cannot make your life impossible if it's really motivated to do so, even in the US, despite the principle.

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