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Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by chrisseaton »

lovecg wrote: post #208
chrisseaton wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a backup. Any copy of your data is a backup. It just shouldn't be the only backup (obviously, like any backup.)

A copy of your data that can be easily modified (whether through bugs, malice, or even just you mistakenly deleting a file and Dropbox happily deleting it everywhere for you) is not a backup. It’s definitely way better than nothing, but people relying on Dropbox as the only “backup” will be in for nasty surprises occasionally.

All backups are vulnerable to deletion, loss, or corruption. That’s why you have many. Dropbox is no different.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by effingwewt »

cywick wrote: post #334
effingwewt wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still zero reason to have on the cloud. You can sync the files between your devices, or even better set up your own home server for close to $0. Why do people always forget the 'cloud' is just someone else's computer. Nothing important should ever exist solely on the 'cloud'. I wouldn't even trust a backup copy sent to email, yet I see that constantly as well.

If you keep your files only on your devices and a home server, you are making yourself vulnerable to scenarios like the one discussed here very recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31652650 ("I've locked myself out of my digital life")

I would recommend none of the above, I was giving OP a better way of having their stuff online.

The article you referenced was getting locked out of accounts. We are speaking of having documents backed up, not google accounts.

The best way period would be to periodically backup to an external HD or even SD cards.

People need to get over this cloud bullshit years ago.

All of these problems have been solved since the advent of the internet, these are all self-imposed problems.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by dekhn »

birdyrooster wrote: post #345
halJordan wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What i found is that darpa paid for research at a university and the students learned something from their project and then when they graduated they built something with their knowledge? It seems like the system of publicly funded research is working.

Not DARPA, In-Q-Tel which is a non-profit venture capital group guided by CIA. They directly funded Google, after it was spun out from Stanford. "In-Q-Tel scouts the global market for commercially focused technologies with the potential to contribute to national security." - Source: iqt.org

I don't think in-q-tel was one of the original VCs that funded google. Google acquired Keyhole some time after founding, and Keyhole was in-q-tel funded, so in-q-tel ended up getting google stock.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by mdmglr »

It's concerning that Dropbox is scanning user data. I understand the benefits of doing that (CSAM/copyright). One of the selling points of Dropbox is offsite backup and if they can delete data at anytime then its obvious to me Dropbox is no good. I personally don't use Dropbox. But if I did I wonder if something like gocryptfs [1] can be integrated with the Dropbox folder.

[1] https://github.com/rfjakob/gocryptfs

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by kurupt213 »

katmannthree wrote: post #190

Dropbox doesn't have any functioning contact points. I cancelled my yearly subscription a month ago the day after it renewed, they cancelled my premium benefits immediately but never send the $120 refund that the cancellation page said I'd get. Tried contacting them from their website contact page, nothing. Tried tweeting at their support account, nothing. I'm half tempted to try to get my bank to do a chargeback. It…

You need to do the chargeback

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by User23 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #320
Teever wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like this definitely needs legislation. The whole concept of ToS needs to be overhauled with vast amounts of practice that is currently considered acceptable thrown right in the fucking trash. The idea that companies can change their ToS on a whim every day and push out walls of text that no one reads and everyone clicks through is insane. Why can't we modify the terms of agreement? Let's start with that la…

There is no need to read them. Every single terms of service ever written can be summarized as follows: > you have no rights > you promise not to try and exercise any right you think you have > you will not do anything the company doesn't like > the company can do anything it wants whether you like it or not > the company is not responsible for anything ever > the company makes absolutely no guarantees about anything

More simply “to the extent permitted by law, you agree that you waive all your rights and we waive all of our responsibilities.”

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by em-bee »

effingwewt wrote: post #352
cywick wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you keep your files only on your devices and a home server, you are making yourself vulnerable to scenarios like the one discussed here very recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31652650 ("I've locked myself out of my digital life")

I would recommend none of the above, I was giving OP a better way of having their stuff online. The article you referenced was getting locked out of accounts. We are speaking of having documents backed up, not google accounts. The best way period would be to periodically backup to an external HD or even SD cards. People need to get over this cloud bullshit years ago. All of these problems have been solved since the a…

The best way period would be to periodically backup to an external HD or even SD cards.

and where do you store those?

you really want multiple backups, and an encrypted cloud storage is one of them.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by antifa »

copperx wrote: post #330
rolph wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in a number of ways yes, depending on the amount of 3rd party attention devoted to the files, in my neck of the woods a 1 terabyte drive is worth ~ 100$

That's very expensive. Where do you live?

It's cheaper than 1 year of dropbox.
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