Deleted ... misunderstanding. /mea culpa/
Yeah... that's a link to the same article as this HN post. I think you meant to post this comment on those other livescience submissions.
Physicists discover never-before seen particle sitting on a tabletop
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#12Deleted ... misunderstanding. /mea culpa/
Yeah... that's a link to the same article as this HN post. I think you meant to post this comment on those other livescience submissions.
Sorry, I was going by the title and the search results, I should have checked. I was going to delete it but the replies mean I can't, so I've replaced the text with an apology.
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#14Imagine the claim is justified, and pools of quantum fluids can transition into a phase that is decoupled from electromagnetic fields, and become dark matter. It would still be baryonic and would become ordinary matter just by heat. We don't have a lot of experience with what happens when quantum mechanical effects expand to a cosmological scale. Who would be surprised to find new physics there.
TIL about (models of) Superfluid Quantum Gravity: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31377395 https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/#comment-31383784
> How is "GR on Bernoulli", GM cannot describe n*x*oo more precisely than oo, and Conway's surreal infinities aren't good axioms either (for GR or for QM with (chaotic) fluids which perhaps need either infinities plural or superfluid QG (instead of QFT fwics); not making sense?
Is this coherent after so much constructive interference in fluids?
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#15Columbia physicist calls out click-bait style abstract, by writing an article with it’s own click-bait title. If this is supposed to be ironic it’s not working for me.
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#16I'm a bit confused by the article here. The author states
> The authors, who begin their abstract with
>> The observation of the Higgs boson solidified the standard model of particle physics. However, explanations of anomalies (for example, dark matter) rely on further symmetry breaking, calling for an undiscovered axial Higgs mode.
> which has nothing to do with the result in their paper.
But also in the abstract is
> Here, we discover an axial Higgs mode in the CDW system RTe3 using the interference of quantum pathways
Similarly, they call out a tweet that is actually by the last author of the paper which states the discovery of a new particle.
> Excited to report our latest @Nature discovery of __a new particle__, the Axial Higgs mode
So I'm not confused about the skepticism of discovering an Axial Higgs mode, but the article is about hype not the experiment. They should at least add that the author and lab is accountable as well as giving some evidence why this experiment is wrong. I'm not a particle physicist so I can't really make conjectures as to if the experiment is right or wrong, but considering that the authors are claiming to discover a new particle I'm not sure I really blame the media in this case (despite the overall messaging resonating with me as I see this happen a lot in my current field: ML). I agree that it doesn't look like a new particle is discovered here, but I think the authors are culpable here. Similarly Nature, where the reviewers should have had this foresight.
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#17Ah it was right there under my coffee cup the whole time!
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#18Columbia physicist calls out click-bait style abstract, by writing an article with it’s own click-bait title. If this is supposed to be ironic it’s not working for me.
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#19Should be retitled to indicate that the initial reporting was false.
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#20I'm a bit confused by the article here. The author states > The authors, who begin their abstract with >> The observation of the Higgs boson solidified the standard model of particle physics. However, explanations of anomalies (for example, dark matter) rely on further symmetry breaking, calling for an undiscovered axial Higgs mode. > which has nothing to do with the result in their paper. But also in the abstract is…
Higgs mode != Higgs boson.