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Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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There has to be some sort of hiring "gate", what would be the replacement? It used to be a CS degree (which is even more restrictive). FAANG jobs are in high demand due to salary, so now we have 5+ round interviews and leetcode as a low effort filter.

I would suggest reading the end of the post that answers the question

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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the writer forgot to say they discriminate against those who can't (or don't want to) practice leetcode questions in their free time. This includes those with families, caretakers, people with after work hobbies, etc.

Mmh, isn't that what this says?

> Another major issue: you’re skewing the data with somebody’s ability to prepare for the interview

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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I think that a blanket rejection of the "Leetcode" style interview is too broad. They are a tool, and like any tool, one should try and understand when they are appropriate for the job. If the "the job" is to try and provide a fairly level playing field on which to assess candidates on raw problem-solving ability and programming intuition, these are useful tools. There are the same problems as with any test of this k…

That's here at the top of the post

> I don’t think it’s an all or nothing situation. You should use questions that provide data per whether the candidate will perform in the job they’re interviewing for. If that job is extremely algorithmic driven, e.g. in academia, or involves OS-level optimization, sure, maybe leetcode exercises are relevant

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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But have you had a chance to look back and see if those questions worked out? Like, are they a good predictor for how the person actually performed in the job?

I've only been directly involved in hiring five people and it worked out well for all of those

cool. Thank you!

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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> You can however assess how smart somebody is Are you saying the Leetcode-style interview assesses how smart someone is?

Not OP, and I don't think it directly indicates how smart you are, but it does show you are at or above some smartness threshold (i.e. smart enough to get the answer). If you don't get the answer, you might still be above that smartness threshold, but didn't get it for some other reason (didn't have time to study, didn't sleep enough the night before, interview anxiety, etc.).

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Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Perhaps there's another collectively shared work experience that also created leetcode style interviews. That is dealing with someone who has a degree, can speak well of what it takes to code, but who cannot code to save their life. I have known more than a dozen such "engineers". That's the reason you code during an interview, I think the emphasis on optimal O(N) is just a set of engineers who don't believe it shoul…

Here you go # You have a music player that should be playing a 900 song list randomly. # You notice that you keep hearing a song being repeated during your drive and # you are curious if its truly random. from collections import Counter import random r = random.Random() songs = range(1,900) unplayed = set(songs) # You also keep hitting skip in the hopes a particular song comes up. # Write a piece of code that simulat…

I'm wondering why would the music player implement sampling with replacement and not without replacement? Sampling without replacement would shuffle the list and then play the tracks in shuffled order, no repeats until all songs are played once.

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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But.. why? Does that reflect anything close to the job they would be doing? Is handicapping someone in every way (You will google it for them), putting them on the spot in an already tense situation and expecting them to code while you watch the way that literally any software job works? This is the insanity to me, "Here, do this contrived task that doesn't represent anything you will be doing... to prove that you ca…

> But.. why? Does that reflect anything close to the job they would be doing? Yes? Yes. Figuring out how to make a computer solve problems is very much the job of a software developer. They will only encounter harder and less well defined tasks in their actual job. If they can’t do this and you hire them that is like hiring an opera singer who is mute, or a baker who is deadly alergic to flour. > putting them on the…

I can certainly understand that there are unqualified people who apply, what I'm disputing is your assertion that there is a correlation between doing the contrived problems under unrealistic conditions and future job performance. It sounds like your goal is just to filter out the absolute worst of the worst, and I'm sure its effective at that, but I believe you might be filtering out more of the top end than you realize.

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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That’s a fascinating idea. Get companies to accept some form of standardized testing and have it be transferable. That would greatly increase the motivation behind its studies I would presume.

you could even call it certification!

I've done first party certification and it was always a joke -- they need you to pass so you can get your employer to use their services. Are there trusted third party certification services that are willing to fail half or more of their customers?

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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true, the keyword is 'standardized' at national level, even 'global' level.

You're going to hear complaints about bias in selecting the types of problems.

for SAT or GRE, my understanding is they have a huge pool of problems, before the test they're picked and assembled somehow. I hear no one complains about SAT or GRE selections of problems, so it might be less of a concern.
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