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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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"Secret" means that the supposed account violation wasn't specified in the message from Dropbox. Possibly an automated decision. And apparently it was without warning on the first offense? Definitely need more info. And extremely worrying for me as a customer that they will take down the whole account for a single toc violation.

Quite possible something hard illegal, like problematic porn or terrorism or such. I guess in case of some random hollywood-alarm being triggered, there would have been a DMCA-complain coming from that party.

Or a file containing the number '1' (https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-drive-flags-text-files-con...)

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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All it takes is one to write the code.

No. It's not just to write the code. To fake a six-month legitimate use, the spammer also needs to run the code for six months, it takes lots of resource to do so. To avoid detection, you can't just make API calls for six months. You have to run the official client on the machine for six months, and then the official client can collect more data on your usage pattern. Imagine the cost to run hundreds / thousands thos…

Or just steal someone's account. Instagram bots do it a lot.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Something like this definitely needs legislation. The whole concept of ToS needs to be overhauled with vast amounts of practice that is currently considered acceptable thrown right in the fucking trash. The idea that companies can change their ToS on a whim every day and push out walls of text that no one reads and everyone clicks through is insane. Why can't we modify the terms of agreement? Let's start with that la…

There is no need to read them. Every single terms of service ever written can be summarized as follows: > you have no rights > you promise not to try and exercise any right you think you have > you will not do anything the company doesn't like > the company can do anything it wants whether you like it or not > the company is not responsible for anything ever > the company makes absolutely no guarantees about anything

> If you ever get it in your silly little head that you do have rights, you agree to binding arbitration with the firm we pay

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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post #276

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He's not the legal owner of the content he creates.

Surely he's the legal owner of much of it, unless you're trying to imply he doesn't do any creative work at all outside the scope of his current contracts.

Owning a majority of a work does not give you the right to share the other parties' work.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Unsurprisingly, after funding the initial round of Google investment, the DoD would come back not much later to eavesdrop on the email and uploads delivered to gmail into that storage.

What i found is that darpa paid for research at a university and the students learned something from their project and then when they graduated they built something with their knowledge? It seems like the system of publicly funded research is working.

Not DARPA, In-Q-Tel which is a non-profit venture capital group guided by CIA. They directly funded Google, after it was spun out from Stanford.

"In-Q-Tel scouts the global market for commercially focused technologies with the potential to contribute to national security." - Source: iqt.org

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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No. It's not just to write the code. To fake a six-month legitimate use, the spammer also needs to run the code for six months, it takes lots of resource to do so. To avoid detection, you can't just make API calls for six months. You have to run the official client on the machine for six months, and then the official client can collect more data on your usage pattern. Imagine the cost to run hundreds / thousands thos…

Or just steal someone's account. Instagram bots do it a lot.

Of course, in these cases the company shouldn’t delete the stolen accounts either. They should lock the account , not delete.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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post #224

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> whoever Justin is pirating content from Wow, you've made a huge assumption here.

He's not the legal owner of the content he creates.

I would be highly suprised if he doesn't have the right to distribute his work in a small scale non-commercially, especially as part of the process of creating that work.

You have made a huge and baseless assumption that there was any copyright infringement happening.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Isn't it pointless to discuss this without knowing more about the communications that happened?

Not really. It’s unacceptable for Dropbox to know/inspect what content you’re storing, scan it for anything without you actively requesting they do so, and certainly to delete it. This behaviour and any terms of service that allow it should be illegal. The fact that it goes on constantly is a scandal.

There are clearly situations where it's deemed acceptable. Dropbox cooperates with law enforcement to remove illegal images of minors, for instance.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Dropbox calls it a backup service: https://www.dropbox.com/backup

Dropbox Backup is not Dropbox the file sync app. See here: https://www.dropbox.com/backup#dropbox-backup-plan

It is included and turned on by default for any of the paid plans: https://www.dropbox.com/plans

In practice it basically just means 30 day recovery for any modifications/deletions.

I used to work there FWIW. Internally it's certainly considered a backup solution for customers.

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